Prayers in the official churches. / Reply
Dr. John Waterfield 00, 2006-01-28
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Must Christians love their enemies?
Part 1, Discourse 75
Dr. John Waterfield from Hereford, England, known to readers of this website
as a result of his interesting contributions in Discourse 78 and by his own definition “a
passionate Catholic”, has also taken issue with the statements made in Discourse 75. The
discussion was carried on by e-mail, and since the comments were too extensive for publication in
the original discourse, it has been found necessary to insert a second part of the document at this
point.
(See also Discourse 78: “The doctrine of the
Catholic church and the Bible - a debate.”)
(Texts enclosed in a black frame are quoted from visitors to the site or other authors.)
You write at the beginning of Discourse 75:
“Here I would like once again to say a few words about the contents
of prayer. In the official churches you get a lot of prayers for ‘the Third World’, ‘the
poor’, ‘the victims of the flood disaster’ etc. In my understanding of the matter, this is
overweening, and it betrays an absolutely inflated idea of ourselves to suppose that we might be
able in any way to sort out entire countries, continents or even the whole human race as the
result of a prayer.”
It is not us doing the sorting out, it is God. We only have to ask. So there is
nothing overweening, or tending to our own importance, about it.
Dr John Waterfield jw.translations@virgin.net / http://www.jwtranslations.com
I know, this is the path followed by the official churches: you pray on the
watering-can principle and let God do the “sorting”. This is rather similar to the way in which
some parents give their children more pocket money, in order to avoid having to trouble themselves
with them. This of course has the advantage, in both cases, that you do not have to make any effort
or any kind of commitment yourself. And to prevent this from becoming altogether too apparent, one
then diffidently states that it is not “up to us” to ponder on the needs of those people whom we
hope to help with our prayers before presenting them to God, so that God can recognize that we are
concerned for these people in a quite personal way and on that basis are asking for his help. One
just makes an “all-inclusive” prayer without stirring a finger, and then lean back satisfied in
ones pew.
John Waterfield: St John of the Cross said, ‘One sincerely felt prayer
does more good in the world than any amount of charitable activity.’
This statement by your “saint” is again a remark that can mean everything and
nothing. What does “sincerely felt” mean, in this context? In our previous discussion in
Discourse 78 you asserted that other faiths as well - like Hinduism, Buddhism, shamanism and so on -
are also capable of bringing people to salvation,
“... if pursued in a spirit of selflessness and sincerity”.
Much as one feels inclined to applaud the human virtues of selflessness and
sincerity, from the point of view of a biblically believing Christian, only faith in Our Lord Jesus
Christ - and his redeeming sacrifice on the cross for the forgiveness of our sins - can lead us to
everlasting life and save us from final damnation.
Then this saint speaks of “prayer”. Hindus, Moslems and devil-worshipers also pray to their
gods, but from the Christian point of view their prayers are sent to the wrong address. Though I
have my doubts whether you would agree with me on this, seeing that you wrote me in Discourse 78:
“... I know quite a few Buddhists - and I can see much of value in
their spiritual practice. I am sure that in the hereafter Jesus will accept it as having been done
in his name, even if they did not know that they were doing it in his name.”
And as a Christian, with the best will in the world I cannot agree with this view.
These Far Eastern religions do not believe in the God of Christianity, they do not believe in the
Son of this God, Our Lord Jesus Christ, or in his redeeming sacrifice for our sins. Nor, then, have
they made any personal decision to accept the grace of God as it is offered here.
With particular reference to the Buddhists of your acquaintance whom you mention above, one is
compelled to ask why it is, if they are really acting “unconsciously” in the name of Jesus, that
they have not then consciously converted to the Son of the one and only God? As these are people
with whom you are acquainted, and you describe yourself as a Christian, they cannot after all be
strangers to Christianity. So why have they still not accepted Christ? Is it perhaps because you
give them the impression that there is no need to be converted, and that they can go on believing
“unconsciously” in Jesus Christ in this way, without having to confess him to the outside world?
Everyone who confesses Me before men, I will also confess him before My Father.
Mt 10,32 "Therefore everyone who confesses Me before men, I
will also confess him before My Father who is in heaven. 10,33 "But whoever denies Me before
men, I will also deny him before My Father who is in heaven. Mt 10,32-33;
John Waterfield: I would also seriously disagree with your view that we
should only pray for individuals with whom we are personally connected. If we see on our
television screens victims of the tsunami or of flood disasters or whatever, how can we not be
compassionate? How can this compassion not issue in a prayer to God our common Father?
To start by taking the last thing you say here: you are dangerously in error, if you
think - as you plainly do - that God is the “common father” of all human beings. God is the
creator of the world, but he is only a Father to those who confess themselves his children. And it
is easy enough to see that all the unbelievers of this world - that is, all non-Christians - can not
be included in this category. This type of argument in the first place encourages unbelievers to
think it is all right for them to go on leading a godless life, while still having the Christian God
as their father and being saved. With some brethren who are less well established in the faith, on
the other hand, these suggestions could actually lead them astray, encouraging them to take an
interest in mystic pursuits and Far Eastern religions and so causing them to apostasize from the
true Christian faith.
In response to your remark about television and prayer - what do you actually want to pray for here?
These reports are generally days old, if not weeks old - the people you see on the screen are dead
already. This would be rather as if you were to watch on your television a feature film in which a
murder takes place, and should run to the telephone to alert the homicide department.
The Indian Ocean tsunami caused the deaths of something like 230,000 people - the reports about it
were extremely detailed.
In Darfur, in the Sudan, 3.5 million people have been murdered by their own government in recent
decades. Mass executions, mass rapes and expulsions are the order of the day. Today 10,000 people
are still being killed or are dying of hunger every month. But the television doesn’t bring us
reports from this quarter, because it is not so attractive. So we don’t see anything about it, and
we don’t pray either.
Think of the victims of terrorist attacks in Iraq and Israel. Think of the train accidents, plane
accidents, pit disasters, avalanches, earthquakes, landslips, typhoon catastrophes, famines and so
on and so forth. Do these not also have a claim on your compassion? But compassion on its own is
hypocritical, as what it comes down to is an evasion of the need to exert oneself and give help. So
we must help actively. Then do we just travel to the spot and set to work? Is this practical, is it
possible - and then, all over the world? It just isn’t on - and so we give money instead. But even
our financial help is not enough to cope with all these problems. And then you suddenly wonder why
it is that the governments on the spot don’t actually do anything to help. But it turns out that
either they need their money for satellites and atom bombs, like India and Pakistan, or else they
are ruled by corrupt politicians who go on diverting our donations to their Swiss bank accounts the
moment the funds come in. Those who are in need are unlikely to see a cent of it.
So what do you want to pray? You know about the situation only from television reports. You do not
know the mentality of the people either. The fishermen of Phuket lost their little fishing boats in
the tsunami, so they were sent a quantity of plastic boats from Europe that had seen the end of
their service life. This was not such a good idea, because before the tsunami anyone who had a boat
was the “boss” who did not work but had others - the people without boats - working for him. As
they now all had boats, nobody wanted to work any longer, because they were all “bosses”.
What should we pray then? “Lord, help the victims of catastrophes”? That, I suppose, would be
the Catholic version. But would that be just? Would it be appropriate? There are thousands of people
suffering hunger and dying, and we sit at home in front of the television and feel “compassion”?
That is just a bit simple, and it falls rather short. What is more, most of the victims are dead
already and don’t need help any longer. Not the dead, but the living need our help. Financial
help, but also and in particular, help of a spiritual nature, in that we have the Lord’s
commission to preach the gospel to them and to pray for them. This may be through missionary work in
the countries of the third world, in the evangelization of our cities, or it may equally well be
through personal contact with people in our immediate environment.
Now you wrote me in Discourse 78:
“As I'm sure you are aware, the Catholic position is that the Church
precedes the Bible and is the greater whole in which Scripture is contained. (...) All the same the
Church existed before the books of the NT came to be written, and it was the Church that determined
which books became part of the canon.”
So for the Catholic church - and for you as well, as you confirm here - the Bible is
not the first definitive authority: authority is rather represented by the Catholic church itself
with its “tradition”, that is to say with all that has been handed down by word of mouth and in
writing. But I think that it can be determined even on the basis of these Catholic traditions -
similarly to the New Testament - that in the earliest Christian congregations first of all the
gospel was preached, and then prayer was offered up for these new brethren in the congregations. The
early Christians prayed for those people they knew, not for the entire world. So do we feel less
compassion today for all those unbelieving people in our immediate environment, although they are on
the path to eternal perdition if the gospel is not preached to them and they do not accept the
redeeming sacrifice of Our Lord?
If I remember correctly, you wrote me on one occasion that your wife and children are not Christians
and that you regret this. Instead of praying for blasphemers, how would it be if you were to make it
clear to your family that they will be lost for all eternity if they do not accept faith in Jesus
Christ?
John Waterfield: You further write:
“It seems to me that a certain desire to optimize the situation is
creeping in here - in that we want to have the biggest possible success resulting from a minimum
investment. And of course it sounds so nice, doesn’t it, when we pray for ‘the whole world’.
In doing so, we have no idea for how many blasphemers, deniers of God and idolaters we may be
beseeching God’s blessing.”
Do blasphemers etc. have any LESS need of prayer than the devout? Of course the
exact opposite is true, as Jesus himself made very clear. Or are you suggesting that such people
do not deserve our prayers? I see it as being my daily task to pray for the unbelieving world. It
seems that you see it as your daily task to condemn it.
What Our Lord himself made very clear is that we are not to pray for blasphemers and
the unbelieving world, but - as he showed us - to call sinners to repentance!
I have not come to call the righteous but sinners to repentance.
Lk 5,31 And Jesus answered and said to them, "It is not those who
are well who need a physician, but those who are sick. 5,32 "I have not come to call the
righteous but sinners to repentance." Lk 5,31-32;
For I did not come to call the righteous, but sinners.
Mt 9,12 But when Jesus heard this, He said, "It is not those who
are healthy who need a physician, but those who are sick. 9,13 "But go and learn what this
means: ‘I desire compassion, and not sacrifice,’ for I did not come to call the righteous,
but sinners." Mt 9,12-13;
I did not come to call the righteous, but sinners.
Mk 2,17 And hearing this, Jesus said to them, "It is not those who
are healthy who need a physician, but those who are sick; I did not come to call the righteous,
but sinners." Mk 2,17;
But this means that we cannot here pass the buck to God, by “praying for the
unbelieving world”, but must rather call sinners to repentance and conversion, as Our Lord did
himself. And this call cannot be anything other than Our Lord’s command to preach the gospel in Mk
16,15 “Go into all the world and preach the gospel to all creation.” So it is the Good
News of the redeeming sacrifice of Our Lord for the sins of the whole world that we must preach to
sinners and unbelievers. If they respond to this call, then they will be converted and saved and
will become blessed. If they do not respond to the call, then, in the words of Our Lord, we should
have nothing more to do with them and should even wipe off the dust of their streets as a sign of
protest.
Whatever city you enter and they do not receive you, go out and wipe off the dust of their city against them.
Lk 10,8 "Whatever city you enter and they receive you, eat what is
set before you; 10,9 and heal those in it who are sick, and say to them, ‘The kingdom of God has
come near to you.’ 10,10 "But whatever city you enter and they do not receive you, go out
into its streets and say, 10,11 ‘Even the dust of your city which clings to our feet we
wipe off in protest against you; yet be sure of this, that the kingdom of God has come near.’
10,12 "I say to you, it will be more tolerable in that day for Sodom than for that city.
Lk 10, 8-12;
The one who listens to you listens to Me, and the one who rejects you rejects Me; and he who rejects Me rejects the One who sent Me.
Lk 10,16 "The one who listens to you listens to Me, and the one who rejects you rejects Me; and he who rejects Me rejects the One who sent Me." Lk 10,16;
It follows that while you may be able, with your prayers, to ask for God’s help
for individuals, you cannot save either blasphemers or the sinners of the whole world from
damnation, as the Catholic saint you cite later on, Therese of Lisieux, seems to suppose. This is
because the unbelieving world has long since been saved and redeemed by Our Lord Jesus Christ.
Through his redeeming sacrifice on the cross he created the necessary conditions for all humanity to
be saved. But first of all people must have the Good News - the gospel of the love and grace of God
in his Son - preached to them. And when they have heard this message, they must decide whether they
want to accept or reject God’s offer. This is a personal decision that every individual must take
for himself or herself, voluntarily and without any external pressure. So God doesn’t take any
influence on the individual’s decision here either, and any prayer in this direction is just
wasted effort. Only when the individual has decided to be converted from his unbelief or his
idolatry, and to accept the offer of Our Lord for the forgiveness of his own sins as well, is he
saved from eternal damnation. Then - and only then - you can pray for him, pray that he may abide
steadfast in the true faith.
(See also Discourse 83: “Does Gods omniscience
contradict human free will?“)
But we are concerned in this discussion on the one hand with prayer for the entire
world - for people, that is, whom we have never seen and whom we therefore do not know either - and
on the other hand with prayer for those people in our immediate environment whose material and
spiritual needs are known to us, and who we can therefore have regard to when praying to God. But
prayer is not our only way of helping these people: we can also support them in a material sense, we
can motivate and advise them and point them the way. If we now omit to do this in favor of praying
for “the world”, it looks suspiciously as if the real motivation here is not so much a special
concern for blasphemers, but rather a neglect of these rather demanding social and pastoral
activities which here are conveniently transposed into a prayer for the “unbelieving world”.
John Waterfield: In replying to Mr Gasser, you express yourself as follows:
“You write in one of your e-mails that you have spent 35 years
seeking God. Seeing that you are so well acquainted with your national church, I presume you have
also tried to find God there in the past. So how is it that you still haven’t found God there,
after all these 35 years? Isn’t that a comment on this church? Your other remarks on what God
does and what he does not do surprise me somewhat, when I reflect that you have yourself stated
that you are just trying to get to know God - which means that you do not know God yet.”
Can anyone claim to know God? Can you blame someone for having the humility
to confess that he does not? Would you be prepared to insist that your knowledge of God is
superior?!
It is a statement made by my partner in this discussion that he would like to get
to know God, and I do not find this so far off the mark as you do. Someone who prays to God in
his secret chamber and in the Spirit every day, who talks to God and studies the Bible on a regular
basis, will come in the course of time to have a certain knowledge about God and the dealings of God
with humanity. On the basis of your surprised question, however, I must conclude that you - for
whatever reason - have not yet had the benefit of such experience.
But here, after all, the issue we are concerned with is that Hanspeter Gasser has been looking
for God for 35 years, and evidently has not found him. The important thing, then, is to find
God. And God is only to be found in the Bible, not in the catechism or in any kind of tradition. If
someone has been looking for God for 35 years and still has not found him, we can take it as certain
that he has been looking in the wrong place. And seeing that you again address me personally at this
point - yes, I am happy and thankful to testify that I found my God and Redeemer 30 years ago and
more. So I no longer need to look for God, but am privileged to lead a blessed and prayer-filled
life with God and Our Lord Jesus Christ.
John Waterfield: Your answer to Mr Gasser continues:
“And then we must also clear up what appears to be a
misunderstanding in the views of Mr Gasser quoted above. When he writes, in his reply,
‘Plainly I am the victim of a completely incorrect understanding of our faith if I think that it
is our job to pray that even blasphemers may be redeemed by Jesus Christ’
- we must acknowledge that he is quite right.”
Unless my reading is at fault, I think Mr Gasser is being ironic here. That is to
say, I do not think he has any more objection to praying for blasphemers than I would.
In his irony he stated the truth. The real commission given to Christians is not to
pray for blasphemers, but first of all to proclaim the gospel to them - as shown in my subsequently
statement in Discourse 75. And if a person does not have the possibility or does not have the talent
for proclaiming the gospel, then he can support evangelization and the preaching of the gospel in
the missions with financial help or in other ways. Though the Catholic missions are in my view not
to be recommended, as they generally leave out the topic of salvation through Jesus Christ. (Cf. Das
Evangelium der Maria. Die weibliche Stimme des Urchristentums. Errettung durch Gott bringt uns das
Evangelium der Maria - die wahrhaftig frohe Botschaft! [The gospel of Mary. The female voice of
primitive Christianity. Salvation by God is brought to us by the gospel of Mary - the real Good
News!] by Jean-Yves Leloup).
John Waterfield: Dann schreiben Sie:
“The real job of the Christian believer is not to pray for
blasphemers - rather, it is described by the Lord specifically in the following passage (Mk
16,15-16):
Go into all the world and preach the gospel to all creation.
Mk 16,15 And He said to them, "Go into all the world and
preach the gospel to all creation. 16,16 "He who has believed and has been baptized
shall be saved; but he who has disbelieved shall be condemned. Mk 16,15-16;”
I am afraid I completely disagree with this. I would rather pray for sinners than
be proved right by condemning them - or even (if it comes to that) by God’s condemning them. I
do not think God wants to condemn a single soul. If souls are condemned, it can only be by
their own choice. The task of the Christian believer, correspondingly, must surely be ‘not to
desire the death of a sinner, but rather that he may turn from his wickedness and live’.
In the life of faith it is not so much a matter of “wanting”, as of doing
something. The commandment given by Our Lord Jesus Christ to all true Christians in the entire world
is to preach the Good News of salvation by grace through his redeeming sacrifice. The whole
of Christendom is unanimous on this point. If you now say “I completely disagree with this”, I
can only put it down to your taking the position that for you the Bible is not definitive, and what
is more that all other religions are equally capable of leading to salvation.
The reason you give - that you completely disagree with the Lord’s statement that “he who has
disbelieved shall be condemned” on the grounds that God “does not want to condemn a single soul”
- is a clear indication that you have missed out on the conditio sine qua non of this
expression of the will of God, even though it is to be found in all 27 books of the New Testament.
The indispensable condition, on the basis of which human beings are able to enter eternal life, is
not that “desire of the heart for God” which you have fancifully attributed to all unbelievers
generally on repeated occasions, but faith in Jesus Christ.
He who believes in Me will live even if he dies.
Jn 11,25 Jesus said to her, "I am the resurrection and the life; he
who believes in Me will live even if he dies,11,26 and everyone who lives and believes in Me
will never die. Do you believe this?" Jn 11,25-26;
Unless you believe that I am He, you will die in your sins.
Jn 8,24 "Therefore I said to you that you will die in your sins;
for unless you believe that I am He, you will die in your sins." Jn 8,24;
Now I do agree with you when you say that people will be condemned on the basis of
their own choice. But have you thought at all about what these people
should choose? It is the gospel of Jesus Christ, with which you were in “complete disagreement”
a moment ago, that gives the only correct answer to this question. If people know nothing about the
redeeming sacrifice of the Lord and salvation by grace, they cannot choose them either. So if you
want sinners to be converted, to repent and be saved, then you must also make some contribution to
this by telling them about this one and only path to salvation - on your website, for instance,
where after all you can reach out to the whole world.
If you have proclaimed the gospel to an unbeliever, then you can pray for him, pray that he will
actually respond to it and be saved. To pray for a person to be converted without first preaching
the gospel to that person is like starting a car when the fuel tank is empty. You can go on trying
to start it all you like, but the car isn’t going to move an inch. Likewise with people who have
not already heard the gospel, you can pray all you want, but you won’t make anything happen - the
reason being that they just do not have any idea what they should choose.
John Waterfield: And then you write in your explanation of the parable of
the Good Samaritan:
“And this is just the point at which Our Lord engages with the
issue, by making it plain through this parable that we do not have to spend a lot of time
searching around and wondering who our neighbor is - the neighbor we are supposed to love as
ourselves - because this neighbor gives us direct evidence of his identity through his compassion
and willingness to help us. So the Lord did not answer this question just for the benefit of the
lawyers of Israel of his own time - the answer is equally relevant to us today. If we want to
recognize our neighbors, we must look among the people who have shown us love and compassion.
These then we should love in return - and love them as we love ourselves. This is what the Lord
says, and it is also the most obvious thing in the world and taken by all reasonable persons as
such. How is it then that some people see this view as incorrect?”
May I quote here Matthew 5, 43-48:
You have heard that it was said, YOU SHALL LOVE YOUR NEIGHBOR, and hate your enemy. But I say
to you, love your enemies, and pray for those who persecute you in order that you may be sons of
your Father who is in heaven; for He causes His sun to rise on the evil and the good, and sends
rain on the righteous and the unrighteous. For if you love those who love you, what reward have
you? Do not even the tax-gatherers do the same? And if you greet your brothers only, what do you
do more than others? Do not even Gentiles do the same? Therefore you are to be perfect, as your
heavenly Father is perfect.
I think that completely contradicts your interpretation of the Good Samaritan story. I have been
told that Margaret Thatcher shared your opinion - but would you want to be in that kind of
company?!
For the benefit of all those readers who have not yet read the first part of this
Discourse, may I just at this point quote the parable of the Good Samaritan once more, so that they
may be aware of the background to my arguments:
But the lawyer, desiring to justify himself, said to Jesus, "And who is my neighbor?
Lk 10,25 And behold, a lawyer stood up to put him to the test, saying,
"Teacher, what shall I do to inherit eternal life?" 10,26 He said to him,
"What is written in the law? How do you read?" 10,27 And he answered, "You shall
love the Lord your God with all your heart, and with all your soul, and with all your strength, and
with all your mind; and your neighbor as yourself." 10,28 And he said to him,
"You have answered right; do this, and you will live." 10,29 But he, desiring to
justify himself, said to Jesus, "And who is my neighbor?" 10,30 Jesus replied,
"A man was going down from Jerusalem to Jericho, and he fell among robbers, who stripped him
and beat him, and departed, leaving him half dead. 10,31 Now by chance a priest was going down that
road; and when he saw him he passed by on the other side. 10,32 So likewise a Levite, when he came
to the place and saw him, passed by on the other side. 10,33 But a Samaritan, as he journeyed, came
to where he was; and when he saw him, he had compassion, 10,34 and went to him and bound up his
wounds, pouring on oil and wine; then he set him on his own beast and brought him to an inn, and
took care of him. 10,35 And the next day he took out two denarii and gave them to the innkeeper,
saying, ‘Take care of him; and whatever more you spend, I will repay you when I come back.’
10,36 Which of these three, do you think, proved neighbor to the man who fell among
the robbers?" 10,37 He said, "The one who showed mercy on him." And Jesus
said to him, "Go and do likewise." Lk 10,25-37;
The one and only purpose of the whole parable, as the Lord uses it here, is to
answer the question that has continued to be discussed right up to the present day by the Jewish
lawyers and rabbis: “Who then is my ‘neighbor’, in the first commandment of the Almighty, who
we are supposed to love as we love ourselves?” And in point of fact even today Jews believe that
it is only possible to be a neighbor by birth - as a brother or sister, that is, or at all events on
the basis of belonging to the same race, so that an Israelite is a neighbor to Israelites. At the
very most a relationship based just on sympathy, as between friends, might fulfill this criterion.
So it is only these people who we would be required to love.
But this parable of the Lord’s makes it plain to them that it is not our physical brothers and
sisters or our friends who are automatically our neighbors, on the basis of their connection with us
- it is rather those people who have stood by us when we were in need, who by helping us have become
our neighbors. And so in accordance with this commandment we must love these people as we love
ourselves in gratitude for their help, through which they have become our neighbors. This is the
exact message of the parable. This is love of our neighbor as the Lord here defines it.
The incorrect interpretation which has come into circulation as a result of incomprehension or
superficial reading of this parable is the view that sees all the poor of this world as
automatically being our ‘neighbors’, just on the grounds that they are poor. Certainly, support
given to those in need of help is not played down in this parable. If someone wants to become
the neighbor of another, he must help him. The Lord says as much, after all, at the end of the
parable. But it is then, based on the commandment of God, the obligation of the person who has been
helped to love the helper in recognition of the help he has provided. Love of our neighbor, such as
the Lord calls for here, is therefore not a category of compassion, but rather one of gratitude.
So seeing that in this authentic love of our neighbor we have to do with a special and more
comprehensive love, comparable with the love each individual has for himself, and not the normal
love of human beings, your quoting the Sermon on the Mount in this connection is somewhat out of
place. Apart from this, it suggests that you have not even read my interpretation of this passage in
the first part of this Discourse. Otherwise you would be aware that in the first part I actually
confirm these very statements from the Sermon on the Mount. But whereas your enemies are random
people in the world out there, whom you have never seen and whom you generously want to forgive en
masse by praying for them anonymously, to me they are our actual enemies with whom we are
personally acquainted, with whom we have contact on a daily basis and who we know are hostile
in their attitude to us.
The text of the last verse you quote (Mt 5,48) - “You are to be perfect, as your heavenly Father
is perfect” - should therefore not be interpreted in a superficial way either. The double use of
the term ‘perfect’ is in no way to be taken as implying semantic identity. Human beings cannot
possibly be perfect as God is. This would be humanly impossible, and the Lord would most certainly
not expect what is humanly impossible from us. And besides, it would then actually mean that we
should be just as perfect as the Father, with the consequence that we would ourselves be gods. This
would be a blasphemous idea, so it cannot be what the Lord means.
So the significance of the term needs to be relativized. God, in his omnipotence, is perfect in
heaven. And we, in our human way and with our limited capacity, should also be ‘perfect’. If the
Father causes the sun to rise on his friends and enemies, then we should give the benefit of our
love likewise to our friends and enemies.
But it is obvious, now, that this obligation to forgive and love our enemies excludes those people
who place themselves in opposition to God. Otherwise, indeed, we would be overstepping our human
limits and “playing” God ourselves. Only God can forgive his enemies - it is not for us to do it
in his behalf. It follows from this that we should love our personal enemies, those with whom
we are acquainted and of whom we know that they are hostile to us (not hostile to God!) in a wholly
personal sense. But this on no account extends to any kind of fictional enemies out there in the
world - and least of all the enemies of God. So I do not see any opposition, either, between my
commentary and this passage from the Sermon on the Mount.
The parable of the Good Samaritan is concerned with love of our neighbor - that is to
say, the person who has helped us - and with our obligation to love this person as ourselves.
And as I just made clear in the previous point, this kind of love is not the love that is generally
addressed to our brethren and enemies, but rather a quite special and more comprehensive love, that
requires of us all that we are prepared to allow to ourselves. So it would be quite impossible to
extend this kind of love to all our enemies - or for that matter even to all of our brethren.
My explanation of the parable of the Good Samaritan thus relates just to the one saying of Our Lord’s:
Lk 10,36 Which of these three, do you think, proved
neighbor to the man who fell among the robbers?"
- and the answer of the lawyer:
“The one who showed mercy on him.”
It follows that it is not the man who fell among robbers who was the ‘neighbor’
of the Samaritan, rather it was the Samaritan who was the neighbor of the victim, and who should
therefore have been loved by this same victim - according to the commandment of God - in the same
way as he loved himself.
My interpretation is therefore in no way at odds with this passage from Mt 5,43-48. And indeed I
confirmed this very thing, by writing as follows:
“ The question voiced in the title of this Discourse - ‘Must
Christians love their enemies?’ - can therefore be answered with an absolutely definite
affirmative. At the same time, there must be a pronounced emphasis on the ‘their’, as a
critical factor. We do not find anything in the Bible to tell us that we should love the enemies of
others, let alone people the world over. And even with some of our actual enemies, Scripture tells
us to keep our distance from them and to have nothing to do with their activities (1Cor 5,9-13;
6,9-10; 2Cor 6,14-15 etc.).”
Incidentally, in the first part of this Discourse I quoted the sayings of the Sermon
on the Mount one by one and demonstrated that the Lord is here referring only to those people who
are personally known to us, and ideally also close to us in a physical sense. And if you read
the Sermon on the Mount in its entirety, you can recognize that the Lord is here speaking of our
enemies on the material level. As for enemies on the spiritual level -
that is to say, blasphemers and unbelievers, such as at the time of Our Lord the leaders of the Jews
on the Sanhedrin were - the Lord did not have any mercy on them either, when he denounced them in
the following terms:
Mt 3,7 You brood of vipers, who warned you to flee from the wrath to
come?
Mt 12,24 You brood of vipers, how can you, being evil, speak what is good?
Mt 23,32 You serpents, you brood of vipers, how will you escape the sentence of hell?
Jn 8,44 You are of your father the devil, and you want to do the desires of your father.
You make a proselyte and make him twice as much a son of hell as yourselves.
Mt 23,15 "Woe to you, scribes and Pharisees, hypocrites, because
you travel around on sea and land to make one proselyte; and when he becomes one, you make him twice
as much a son of hell as yourselves. Mt 23,15;
This necessary distinction between our enemies is also confirmed by another
scriptural passage. In the first of the seven letters to the churches in Revelation, the letter to
the congregation of Ephesus, amongst the other merits of this congregation their attitude to the
Nicolaitans is singled out for praise:
Yet this you do have, that you hate the deeds of the Nicolaitans, which I also hate..
Rev 2,6 ‘Yet this you do have, that you hate the deeds of the
Nicolaitans, which I also hate. Rev 2,6;
Just like the injunction in the Sermon on the Mount that you quoted earlier - “You
have heard that it was said, ‘You shall love your neighbor, and hate your enemy’. But I say to
you, love your enemies” (Mt 5,43-44) - so this statement in Revelation comes directly from the
mouth of the Lord (Rev 1,1). So we cannot suppose that in the one instance the Lord would tell us
not to hate but to love our enemies, and then on another occasion praise the faithful of the
congregation because they hate their enemies and their works. And when we look at the continuation
of this statement - “which I also hate” - we can see that it is not just a matter of enemies of
the congregation, they are also enemies of God and Our Lord Jesus Christ. Otherwise he would hardly
say that he hates their works.
If we now pursue the question who these Nicolaitans actually are, we find out more about them in the
third of the letters to the churches, the one addressed to the congregation of Pergamum. Clearly
there were such “Nicolaitans” in this congregation as well, but by contrast with Ephesus, in
Pergamum they were tolerated in the congregation. And for precisely this reason the congregation is
here subjected to Our Lord’s censure and condemnation.
So you also have some who in the same way hold the teaching of the Nicolaitans.
Rev 2,14 ‘But I have a few things against you, because you
have there some who hold the teaching of Balaam, who kept teaching Balak to put a stumbling block
before the sons of Israel, to eat things sacrificed to idols and to commit acts of immorality.
2,15‘So you also have some who in the same way hold the teaching of the Nicolaitans. Rev
2,14-15;
In this passage we see first of all the reason why these people are hated by the
Lord: they disseminate false doctrine. But if we look at it more closely, we can also learn
something about the content of this false doctrine. It is stated here, in Rev 2,15, that these
Nicolaitans hold to their false doctrine “in the same way”. Now this can only be a reference to
what is said in the previous verse, Rev 2,14, about the false teachings of Balaam, which are
likewise tolerated in Pergamum and which are designed “to put a stumbling block before the sons of
Israel, to eat things sacrificed to idols and to commit acts of immorality”.
So both categories - Balaamites and Nicolaitans - are idolaters who put a stumbling block in the way
of the people, present them with lies and so lead the people of God away from the right path and
lure them into believing a false doctrine. We find the same implications even in the two names: the
Old Testament name Balaam means “destroyer of the people”, while the corresponding Greek form
“Nikólaos” comes from nikáo, to conquer, and laós, people, and so can be
translated as “conqueror of the people”. The Nicolaitans, then, are false teachers who have
insinuated themselves in the congregation and are working within the congregation to lead the
faithful astray. What is more, they are idolaters and given to immorality.
The works of these people, which the Lord hates, and which we consequently should not love either,
are presented by Scripture in the following way:
- They have heard that only faith in Jesus Christ can save human beings
from eternal damnation.
- They deny this one and only possible path, and claim that there are other
paths as well.
- Instead of the Creator, they reverence the creation and sacrifice to
idols: the sun, the moon, the stars, mountains, trees and animals. They make images of wood, stone
and metal and pray to them. They conjure up spirits, dead people, angels and demons and supplicate
“saviors”, “mediators” or “gods” that they have themselves invented.
If such people now attempt to pass on their false beliefs in the congregation or to
individual believers, then they are no longer merely the enemies of man, they are also the enemies
of God, as they are seducing his people into offering prayer to idols. They are just as much of
their father the devil as are the Jewish lawyers who denied the divine Sonship of the Lord, and to
whom he referred in such scathing terms in the passage quoted earlier (Jn 8,44). And if anyone has
got the idea into his head that the Lord’s commandment in Mt 5,43 - “But I say to you, love your
enemies” - puts us under an obligation to love these sons of the devil, he has failed to
understand the biblical background and would therefore be well advised to examine the foundations on
which his faith is based at the earliest opportunity.
As Charles H. Spurgeon says in his book “What the Holy Spirit does in a believer's life”
(p 117) [“Mit
Wind und mit Feuer”]:
“While it is true that we live in the world, we do not need to have
any dealings with the devil and his children. Our Lord absolutely does not like to see his children
making companions of the children of wrath. Such evil associations will cause you suffering sooner
or later. You cannot expect that the Holy Spirit will stay with you when you are in league with
those who are opposed to the Lord.”“
If you now go on to describe the godless and idolaters as “my unbelieving or
non-Christian brothers and sisters”, you must expect to be faced with the question whether you
cannot recognize, in the characterization above, a certain similarity with the society that you
frequent, and therefore whether you may not be - from a Christian point of view - fraternizing with
the wrong people?
When, on the other hand, we come to your question whether I would like to be found in the company of
Margaret Thatcher - as you can easily imagine, this British politician of a past era is not
personally known to me, and so I cannot pass any judgment either as to what social circles she moves
in. But if you insist on knowing what kind of contacts I personally favor, I can tell you that
wherever possible I try to avoid the society of those people who form their opinions on the basis of
hearsay and without going into things thoroughly, either in religious or in worldly matters - and so
are responsible for spreading rumors abroad, in the one case as in the other.
John Waterfield: Again you write:
“Finally, in connection with our theme of love of our neighbor, we
might put the further question what it is supposed to mean ‘to love your neighbor as yourself.’
But it shouldn’t really be too difficult to answer this question. Anything that I allow myself -
from the material things that I can afford, through to the faults which I tolerate - I must also
allow to my neighbor, in material or ideal form. And this at the same time gives us an answer to
the question of proportionality: If there is something I cannot afford or do not want to allow
myself, then based on the same definition I do not have to accept it in my neighbor either.”
I find this last statement quite extraordinary. Does it mean that if I am a
teetotaller, it gives me a right to condemn alcoholics? Do I make my own virtue the measure
of other people’s vices? This is completely pharisaical and in contradiction of everything Our
Lord taught us. In particular, the Pharisee and the publican in the temple come to mind.
Just like many other important scriptural passages, this commandment of God’s -
“Love your neighbor as yourself” - is also often viewed superficially, without any analysis of
the real meaning of what is being stated. The explanations of some interpreters give the impression
that “Love your neighbor” is the sum total of what is written here. But this just is not the
case. So why does the Lord say “as yourself”? Because, of course, it is not our normal love of
human beings that is meant, but a quite special and more comprehensive love. If, based on the words
of Our Lord in the Sermon on the Mount, we are supposed to love our friends and enemies, we should
love our neighbors as ourselves.
Now it is a fact that the self-love of a human being is greater, in the great majority of cases,
than that love that he shows to his fellows. And it is just this self-love that we are enjoined by
this commandment to show to our neighbor - the person who helps us - when he requires it of us. But
just as the love of God is not blind, but is directed by his justice, so too this commandment has
its limits. This love of our neighbor is self-regulating. It is based on the self-love of the
individual. One who is dissipated and who allows himself every possible indulgence, must concede the
same to his neighbor when it is asked of him. On the other hand, a person who tends to asceticism
and has thrifty ways can equally make this a condition in relation to his neighbor. This is the
meaning of love of our neighbor as it is defined by Scripture. But it appears that the deeper
significance of this passage is something with which you are not familiar.
But then quite apart from love of our neighbor, if we have to do with an alcoholic the teaching of
the Bible gives us not just the right - if he is a brother in Christ, that is - but even the
obligation to warn him about it, as Paul too writes in the following passage:
Do you not know that drunkards will not inherit the kingdom of God?
1Cor 6,9 Or do you not know that the unrighteous will not inherit the
kingdom of God? Do not be deceived; neither fornicators, nor idolaters, nor adulterers, nor
effeminate, nor homosexuals, 6,10 nor thieves, nor the covetous, nor drunkards, nor
revilers, nor swindlers, will inherit the kingdom of God. 1Cor 6, 9-10;
So it is not a matter of self-righteously looking down on our brother - as in the
parable of the Pharisee and the tax collector - but rather of reproving born-again brethren who as a
result of temptation have fallen into evil ways. And if you criticize me here by saying that “This
is completely pharisaical and in contradiction of everything Our Lord taught us”, I would like to
point out to you what Our Lord actually said in this connection:
If your brother refuses to listen even to the church, let him be to you as a Gentile and a tax collector.
Mt 18,15 "If your brother sins, go and show him his fault in
private; if he listens to you, you have won your brother. 18.16 "But if he does not listen
to you, take one or two more with you, so that by the mouth of two or three witnesses every fact may
be confirmed. 18,17 "If he refuses to listen to them, tell it to the church; and if he
refuses to listen even to the church, let him be to you as a Gentile and a tax collector. Mt
18,15-17;
But the apostles as well, in their letters to the brethren, laid down very concrete rules of procedure, through which they warned the whole congregation not to have dealings with brethren who have fallen into vices of this kind, and who cannot be persuaded to change by any amount of admonition or exhortation:
Do not associate with any brother if he is an immoral person, or covetous, or an idolater, or a reviler, or a drunkard.
1Cor 5,9 I wrote you in my letter not to associate with immoral
people; 5,10 I did not at all mean with the immoral people of this world, or with the
covetous and swindlers, or with idolaters, for then you would have to go out of the world. 5,11
But actually, I wrote to you not to associate with any so-called brother if he is an immoral
person, or covetous, or an idolater, or a reviler, or a drunkard, or a swindler-not even to eat
with such a one. 1Cor 5, 9-11;
Certain persons, who deny our only Master and Lord, Jesus Christ.
Jud 1,3 Beloved, while I was making every effort to write you about our
common salvation, I felt the necessity to write to you appealing that you contend earnestly for the
faith which was once for all handed down to the saints. 1,4 For certain persons have crept in
unnoticed, those who were long beforehand marked out for this condemnation, ungodly persons who turn
the grace of our God into licentiousness and deny our only Master and Lord, Jesus Christ. Jud 1,
3- 4;
For the wages of (each) sin is death.
Rom 6,23 For the wages of sin is death, but the free gift of God
is eternal life in Christ Jesus our Lord. Rom 6,23;
Incidentally, at this point in your commentary you are rather mixing up the texts,
because you have not read what forms the basis of these statements - the parable of the Good
Samaritan - carefully enough. And this then results in many misunderstandings:
- First of all, we are speaking here of the parable of the Good Samaritan,
not about an alcoholic
- Secondly, the matter that concerns us is the question of the lawyer as to
who his neighbor is, whom he is expected to love as himself
- Thirdly, it is a matter of the identity of this same neighbor in the
parable
- Fourthly, of Our Lord’s demonstration that the one who helps is the
neighbor
- And lastly, this ties up with the beginning, as showing that we should
love our helpers as we love ourselves.
So if we are supposed to love our helpers as ourselves, we must concede to
them everything that we likewise concede to ourselves. So if we were alcoholics ourselves, we
would have to tolerate alcoholism in our neighbors as well. But if we are not alcoholics, then based
on our responsibilities in the light of this scripturally based view of love of our neighbor we are
not obliged to tolerate such a thing in our neighbor either. That is to say, we will help him to get
free of this addiction. The message of the commandment “Love your neighbor as yourself”
is purely and simply that we should allow all the good to come to this neighbor of ours - the one
who has helped us - that we also grant ourselves, and conversely we cannot condemn him for
activities that we ourselves indulge in.
Seeing that your memory at the end of the parable apparently did not reach back to the beginning,
you have failed to realize the reference to the neighbor - the helper, that is. And when you say
that “Condemning the vices of other people is totally pharisaical”, this then likewise confirms
that you do not find alcohol abuse, drug abuse, child abuse and rape to be “worthy of condemnation”.
Just in case you should again fail to see the connection here - in all four cases, we find the
individual indulging his own desires. In alcoholism and drug abuse it is our own body that is
abused, in child abuse and rape it is the body of another human being, but this does not alter the
fact that the root cause is the same want of respect for the human body as God’s creation. So you
really need to subject your moral and ethical first principles to a serious re-examination.
John Waterfield: In Ihrer weiteren Argumentation zur Feindesliebe schreiben
Sie:
“If we now try to get a view of the correct background for this
statement of the Lord’s, we hit upon further parallels to love of our neighbor. Just as the
latter relates not to the poor of the entire world, but only to those people who have personally
stood by us and helped us in our lives, so love of our enemies likewise relates not to the whole
world’s criminals but only to those people in our immediate environment who are hostile to us.
And just as with love of our neighbor, so with love of our enemies too it follows of necessity
that we must have a personal connection with the people in question.”
I would like to mention here Therese of Lisieux’s love of a condemned murderer.
She did not know him personally, and she can have had very little idea about his personal
circumstances. She did love him and she did pray for him fervently and he was
converted before he was executed (see Histoire d’une Ame for details).
(See also “Story of my soul” [L'histoire de
mon âme] by Marie-Françoise-Thérèse Martin [Therese of Lisieux].)
Yes, this was an exceptional woman and worthy of admiration. It was she too who
said, shortly before her death, “I am not dying, I am entering life”. There are very few who can
say that. All those human beings who have not accepted faith in Our Lord Jesus Christ and his
redeeming sacrifice can expect, following their first death and resurrection, to be immediately
faced with the second death and eternal damnation.
(See also Excursus 08: “The first and the second
death.”)
Without wanting to belittle the deserts of this Catholic saint with whom I am not
further acquainted, there is nothing in these stories to suggest that this murderer accepted the
vicarious sacrifice of Our Lord for his sins. Just before he was executed, he kissed the cross. But
this by no means proves that he was saved. Moslems too kiss the Koran, and so think that they will
enter paradise.
Love and prayer are important criteria for growth in the Christian life. The crucial matter,
however, is whether a person believes in Jesus Christ, and has also personally accepted his
sacrifice on the cross for our sins. Then he is certainly saved. Otherwise not.
John Waterfield: You further write
“The Jewish spiritual authorities at the time of Jesus were also
denounced for their hypocrisy and deceit by the Lord, who described them as the offspring of the
devil. And right now in America we have just seen the conclusion of two court cases. In one of
these, in the Californian diocese of Santa Rosa, the Roman Catholic church was compelled to pay
out 3.3 million dollars (2.05 million euros) in indemnification for a priest’s having sexually
abused a 14-year-old girl. In the other, in the diocese of Covington in the American state of
Kentucky, the court found for several hundred victims of sexual abuse by Catholic priests and
slapped the Catholic church with the biggest ever indemnification sum to date, amounting to 120
million dollars or 82 million euros. When we consider that in the Northern Californian dioceses
there are another 150 suits still pending, and that the Roman Catholic diocese of Boston last year
had to pay out 85 million dollars (around 66 million euros) to victims of sexual abuse by priests,
the applicability of these statements to the present day is inescapable.”
These accounts certainly make me very sad. I can only say that with all the
Catholic priests whom I know personally, sexual abuse of any kind would be absolutely unthinkable.
Of course we are not concerned here with the Catholic priests with whom you are
acquainted. What is at the stake is the hypocrisy of the Catholic church and of some of its clergy.
As you can easily see, these priests are people who should have been put right by their brothers in
the episcopate. And supposing they were to fall into their old ways again, they should have been
excluded from the church. In the name of an incorrect idea of tolerance, however, which one must
actually characterize as abdication of responsibility - together with the hushing up and sweeping
under the carpet that went with it - this did not happen, and so these are the consequences.
Now in commenting on my remarks about what we must accept in our neighbor and what not, you write:
“I find this last statement quite extraordinary. Does it mean that if
I am a teetotaller, it gives me a right to condemn alcoholics? Do I make my own virtue the
measure of other people’s vices? This is completely pharisaical and in contradiction of everything
Our Lord taught us. In particular, the Pharisee and the publican in the temple come to mind.”
If we now substitute child abuse by Catholic priests for alcohol abuse, I suppose
that you personally would then have likewise given your approval to this sexual misconduct on the
part of your brothers? Seeing that a reproof - to say nothing of punishment - would after all be,
based on your own judgment, “completely pharisaical and in contradiction of everything Our Lord
taught us”. In conjunction with your assertion “These accounts certainly make me very sad”,
this is now completely hypocritical, and shows the double standards of your argument.
For your information, here is the most recent report on this business:
(Texts enclosed in a black frame are quoted from visitors to the site or other authors.)
Louisville (ag) 361 plaintiffs, and damage payments to the amount of 70.1
million euros: one of the most costly abuse trials of the Roman Catholic church in the USA has
just come to an end. In a collective plea, 361 persons accused priests of the Covington diocese in
the US state of Kentucky of having subjected them to sexual abuse. Some cases go back more than 50
years.
The victims will now receive, depending on the extent of the abuse they were subjected to, between
5000 and 450,000 US dollars in damages.
But the highest damages to date were paid by the Orange diocese in California, when in 2004 ninety
victims received a total of 100 million US dollars.
According to an internal church investigation, in the last 50 years there have been 4000 Roman
Catholic priests in the USA found guilty of sexual harassment of a total of 10,000 children,
generally boys.
http://www.diepresse.com/)
Do you not know that homosexuals will not inherit the kingdom of God?
1Cor 6,9 Or do you not know that the unrighteous will not inherit the
kingdom of God? Do not be deceived; neither fornicators, nor idolaters, nor adulterers, nor
effeminate, nor homosexuals, 6,10 nor thieves, nor the covetous, nor drunkards, nor
revilers, nor swindlers, will inherit the kingdom of God. 1Cor 6, 9-10;
It would have shown well in the Catholic church if it had donated the sums it was
here ordered by the court to pay out, coming to almost 200 million US dollars, to the victims of the
tsunami catastrophe for instance. But when it is a matter of charity, admonitions to the world to
give financial support to the needy is all that we find emanating from the Vatican. I personally
have never heard anything about the Vatican itself making any charitable donations.
John Waterfield: With reference to Catholicism in the Third World, you
write as follows:
“But when we analyze the situation more closely, we find that there
is yet another party that benefits from this distorted interpretation. For centuries the Roman
Catholic church has been missionizing many of these peoples, and with some of them it has been
successful in converting the greater part of the population to the Catholic faith - even if the
Catholic Spanish and Portuguese practically exterminated half a million American Indians in the
name of the Catholic church in Southern and Central America in the sixteenth century. Nonetheless
Brazil, for instance, is 93% Catholic today, although these so-called ‘Christians’ do not have
any kind of problem, after Mass on a Sunday morning, about praying to the spirits of the earth and
the forest - who have now been promoted to Catholic saints - in the afternoon, and sacrificing to
them in hope of a good harvest. In Africa we find comparable practices involving shamanism and
voodoo cults. This is Catholicism as it really exists in these countries.”
I must admit that I do not have first hand information here - but are you any
better informed? And would you write off the faith of so many who call themselves Christians,
because you find it to be impure - because it does not measure up to your standards of purity? In
the first centuries of the Christian era, would there not have been a lot of pagan practices still
extant, in parallel to Christian allegiance? Do you not think that Paul would have looked on these
with a tolerant eye - above all because he saw the desire of the heart for God, he valued that
seeking heart rather than condemning it?
I derive my information from the international press, and from the reports of aid
organizations in South America and elsewhere. We are not concerned here with the “purity” or “impurity”
of the faith of these people - and we certainly are not concerned with my personal judgment of the
state they are in. What is at issue is the one correct biblically founded Christian faith, as
it was proclaimed to us by the Lord and the apostles, and the point is that these Catholics, with
their prayers to spirits, demons and idols, may be able to demonstrate their Catholic faith but
certainly do not have a Christian faith founded on the Bible.
These people, then, do not have an “impure” faith, as you suppose - rather, they are quite
simply unconverted: they may be Catholics, but they are not Christians! But this is a circumstance
that the Catholic missionaries, in their prudence, never explained to them. They wanted to acquire
new members, not Christian believers. And so the Catholic church can boast today of having more than
a billion members worldwide.
As for your somewhat surprising view that Paul would have turned a blind eye in the first Christian
congregations because he valued the “desire of the heart for God” (one of your favorite
phrases!) in these people more than he felt the need to condemn them, it can be refuted from
Scripture in Paul’s own words.
We preach the gospel to you that you should turn from these vain idols to a living God.
Apg 14,14 But when the apostles Barnabas and Paul heard
of it, they tore their robes and rushed out into the crowd, crying out 14.15 and saying, "Men,
why are you doing these things? We are also men of the same nature as you, and preach the gospel
to you that you should turn from these vain idols to a living God, who made the heaven and the earth
and the sea and all that is in them. Apg 14,14-15;
With your repeated reference to the “desire of the heart for God” you are
patently trying to disguise the fact that these people, while they may perhaps be in search of a
God, have never decided for the God of Christianity. They have opted for spirits, demons and idols,
to which they pray and offer sacrifice. And this is then interpreted as their “desire of the heart
for God”, on the basis of which you are prepared to declare them to be believing and saved (sic)
Christians free of charge.
John Waterfield: The Bible translator you quote argues (in my view quite
correctly) that ‘neighbourhood’ is a reciprocal term. So Jesus is telling us, in the story of
the Good Samaritan, that we should be a neighbour to those who are less fortunate than
ourselves - not, as you suppose, that we should love those who have been neighbourly to us, in
other words show gratitude to our benefactors.
I see here that you still have not understood this passage correctly - this in view
of the fact that in the above comments you contradict yourself in the space of a single sentence. On
the one hand you write that the Lord tells us that we should be a neighbor to the poor - which is
completely correct. This is indeed the very point of view that I want to emphasize. We - the
helpers - should be a neighbor to the poor and help them. So you interpret this passage in
conformity with Scripture, just as I do - but in exactly the opposite way from the general opinion
and the opinion of the biblical translator in the first part of this discourse, namely that the poor
are our neighbors. I hope that this umpteenth explanation of the implications of the passage
makes the matter finally clear (perhaps you should consult your English Bible).
So if, in the light of the Lord’s commandment, the helpers are the neighbors, then
the poor people in question must, based on the Lord’s commandment to “Love your neighbor as
yourself”, love the people who have helped them as themselves in gratitude for their help. Even if
this should be incomprehensible to you in German, you can check it in the English Bible (or for that
matter in the Greek), where the matter is equally plain.
So you write on the one hand that the Lord says that we should be a neighbor to the poor and help
them (for which they should love us as themselves), and then you criticize me because I say that
when we are poor and in need of help and when help is given to us, we should love our helpers
as ourselves. It is exactly the same situation, only in one case we are the helpers and in the other
the ones who need help.
I am very understanding of the fact that some people do not grasp the significance of these
statements immediately. But this only shows that they have never read this parable of Our Lord’s
with full awareness - or else they have purely and simply failed to understand it. And in such a
situation one would do well to sit down and look more closely at the passage in the Bible.
John Waterfield: You write in answer:
“In his final comment, the translator then suggests that the victim
of the assault in this parable should thank and show his love to the priest and the Levite who
have passed him by without sparing him a thought, when he lay helpless on the road. This finally
shows a complete want of biblical understanding, and the entirely unrealistic nature of such a
point of view is equally plain. Anyone who calls this ‘New Testament ethics’ must be
fundamentally lacking in any understanding either of ethics or of the New Testament.”
There is some distortion involved here, as the Bible translator does not actually
suggest in so many words that the victim should pray for and love those people who have failed to
help him. He does however point out - quite correctly - that Jesus said that if we love those who
love us, nothing special is involved (‘even the publicans and Pharisees do as much’). So yes,
I do think the Christian position is that the victim would be obliged to recognize the priest and
the Levite as fellow human beings, and therefore deserving of his prayers. Is this unrealistic? Of
course. Christianity is completely unrealistic. Hence Tertullian’s comment ‘Credo quia
absurdum est’, and Gandhi’s response when asked what he thought of Christianity: “It
would be a good idea”.
Yes, there really is a case of distortion here. Starting from my simple formulation
“Show your love to the person who has helped you”, this translator takes my meaning to be “Do
good to the Samaritan, but not to the priest and not to the Levite.” But it is not a matter of “doing”
here! It is a matter of love. And what is meant is not the general human love of every day: in view
of this commandment by God, what is at issue is that love with which we love ourselves. This
emphasis gets completely washed out and watered down. Everything that I am prepared to give
myself I must also be prepared to give to this neighbor who has helped me. Can you imagine what that
means? It means, for example, that in the light of the commandment I must make all my worldly goods
available to this person if required. If the common view were correct - according to which, as some
see it, we were to be obliged to love the poor of the whole world in this way - then we in
the West would long since ourselves have come to be in need of charity.
And then you say that “the Christian position is that the victim would be obliged to recognize the
priest and the Levite as fellow human beings, and therefore deserving of his prayers”. What the
victim of the robbers does or does not do is not in any way a matter for discussion, either in the
parable or here. It is simply and solely a question who the neighbor of the victim is. As for the
priest and the Levite being “fellow human beings” of the victim - why should they not be? This
is just a device on the part of this Bible translator, which serves to conceal the fact that the
priest and the Levite are actually not the man’s “neighbors” in the sense defined by the
parable - otherwise the incorrectness of his interpretation might become all too plain.
John Waterfield: You further write:
“As anyone who knows the biblical background of the story is aware,
the Romans were not the real enemies of Our Lord. The real enemies were the Jewish lawyers who had
handed him over to the Romans and delivered him to death on the cross. And when it comes to these,
his true enemies, to whom he has proclaimed the gospel and proved his identity as the Son of God
through his miracles, and who in spite of this (or for this very reason) have persecuted and taken
him captive and condemned him, and who therefore were thoroughly aware of what they were doing -
when it comes to them, the Lord shows himself considerably less gracious, as we can see from the
following scriptural passages.”
Mt 3,7 You brood of vipers, who warned you to flee from the wrath to
come?
Mt 12,24 You brood of vipers, how can you, being evil, speak what is good?
Mt 23,32 You serpents, you brood of vipers, how will you escape the sentence of hell?
Jn 8,44 You are of your father the devil, and you want to do the desires of your father.
And again here, I am afraid that I think your evocation of the Old Testament God
of wrath, through the passages you cite, is altogether unChristian. God ‘desires not the death
of a sinner, but rather that he may turn from his wickedness and live’. Surely you would not
want to be be less merciful? I cannot find any source of satisfaction in the condemnation of my
non-believing or non-Christian brothers and sisters - it is a prospect that affords me very great
pain, given the human potential for good expressed in their lives. But it seems you view the
matter differently.
Now when you say “your evocation of the Old Testament God of wrath, through the
passages you cite, is altogether unChristian”, then you would have to find the whole of the New
Testament “unChristian”, because you find in it those very indications that prove that God’s
love is not blind, as you like to think.
For the wrath of God is revealed from heaven against all ungodliness and unrighteousness of men who suppress the truth in unrighteousness.
Rom 1,18 For the wrath of God is revealed from heaven against all
ungodliness and unrighteousness of men who suppress the truth in unrighteousness, 1,19 because
that which is known about God is evident within them; for God made it evident to them. 1,20 For
since the creation of the world His invisible attributes, His eternal power and divine nature, have
been clearly seen, being understood through what has been made, so that they are without excuse.
1,21 For even though they knew God, they did not honor Him as God or give thanks, but they
became futile in their speculations, and their foolish heart was darkened. Rom 1,18-21;
For they exchanged the truth of God for a lie, and worshiped and served the creature rather than the Creator.
Rom 1,22 Professing to be wise, they became fools, 1,23 and exchanged
the glory of the incorruptible God for an image in the form of corruptible man and of birds and
four-footed animals and crawling creatures. 1,24 Therefore God gave them over in the lusts of
their hearts to impurity, so that their bodies would be dishonored among them. 1,25 For they
exchanged the truth of God for a lie, and worshiped and served the creature rather than the Creator,
who is blessed forever. Amen. Rom 1,22-25;
The Lord came to execute judgment upon all, and to convict all the ungodly.
Jud 1,14 It was also about these men that Enoch, in the seventh
generation from Adam, prophesied, saying, "Behold, the Lord came with many thousands of His
holy ones, 1,15 to execute judgment upon all, and to convict all the ungodly of all their
ungodly deeds which they have done in an ungodly way, and of all the harsh things which ungodly
sinners have spoken against Him." 1,16 These are grumblers, finding fault, following after
their own lusts; they speak arrogantly, flattering people for the sake of gaining an advantage.
1,17 But you, beloved, ought to remember the words that were spoken beforehand by the apostles of
our Lord Jesus Christ. Jud 1,14-17;
After all, it is not as if the Old Testament had suddenly been superseded. In the
passage you quoted earlier from the Sermon on the Mount, the Lord also utters these words:
Do not think that I came to abolish the Law or the Prophets.
Mt 5,17 "Do not think that I came to abolish the Law or the
Prophets; I did not come to abolish but to fulfill. 5,18 "For truly I say to you, until
heaven and earth pass away, not the smallest letter or stroke shall pass from the Law until all is
accomplished. Mt 5,17-18;
As we can see from these scriptural passages, it is not blind love but the absolute
justice of God that determines all his actions. So the love of the Almighty only goes as far as it
can be reconciled with his commandments and his justice, otherwise God’s many punishments of his
beloved people of Israel would be impossible to comprehend. Similarly with the judgments on humanity
in the Last Days of which we are told in Revelation - if God’s love were blind, with no limits set
by justice, these would be inconceivable. But people today like to gloss over this, speaking
disparagingly of the “God of wrath of the Old Testament” and condemning God’s justice as a
traditionalist fundamentalist idea that leaves the love of God completely out of account.
And yet the justice of God has never changed. God judges each human individual in accordance with
his works. So it was in the Old Testament, and so it is in the New Testament as well. What has
changed is the righteousness of human beings. Whereas in the pre-Christian epoch human beings
were judged by God in the light of the righteousness of their actions, and would either have
to offer sacrifice for their sins or themselves answer for it at the Last Judgment, since the
vicarious death of Our Lord Jesus Christ for our sins they are now judged on the basis of whether
they have faith in Jesus Christ and whether they have accepted the redeeming sacrifice of the
Son of God for their sins or not. This acceptance of the faith is the action, the work which we are
charged by God as righteousness. At the Judgment we have to show works which are better than all
works of all righteous together - the sacrifice of the Son of God.
From this time on in world history, the acceptance of faith in Jesus Christ is judged by God as the
highest possible work of righteousness open to human beings. Through this act of deciding for faith
we have that righteousness which Jews and Catholics today still vainly think to “acquire” - the
first through righteous conduct (an illusion), the latter through willfully self-imposed suffering
and self-inflicted pain (a perversion). They have not understood that the price here is way beyond
their means, which is why God wishes to give them a free gift out of grace, in the sacrificial death
of his Son.
The view expressed in one of the books of Cardinal Joseph Ratzinger, now Pope Benedict XVI,
that Jesus Christ did not suffer on the cross for the forgiveness of our sins, but rather - as a
completely righteous person suffering pain undeservedly - meant to give us a model to follow, is
explained by a Catholic priest and theologian in Discourse 30.
(See also Discourse 30: “Why had Jesus to die on
the cross?”)
And it is precisely this that is the love of God towards humanity - that in
his mercy he let his only Son die on the cross as a sacrifice for the sins of all men.
By this the love of God was manifested in us, that God has sent His Son into the world so that we might live through Him.
1Jn 4,9 By this the love of God was manifested in us, that God has
sent His only begotten Son into the world so that we might live through Him. 1Jn 4, 9;
Keep yourselves in the love of God, waiting anxiously for the mercy of our Lord Jesus Christ to eternal life.
Jud 1,20 But you, beloved, building yourselves up on your most holy
faith, praying in the Holy Spirit, 1,21 keep yourselves in the love of God, waiting anxiously for
the mercy of our Lord Jesus Christ to eternal life. Jud 1,20-21;
The love of God has been poured out within our hearts for at the right time Christ died for the ungodly.
Rom 5,5 and hope does not disappoint, because the love of God has
been poured out within our hearts through the Holy Spirit who was given to us. 5,6 For while
we were still helpless, at the right time Christ died for the ungodly. Rom 5, 5- 6;
He who believes in Me will live even if he dies.
Jn 11,25 Jesus said to her, "I am the resurrection and the life; he
who believes in Me will live even if he dies, 11,26 and everyone who lives and believes in Me
will never die. Do you believe this?" Jn 11,25-26;
In Our Lord’s saying above, “he who believes in me”, we do however recognize the limits to which the love of God is subject: it is not an unconditional and unlimited love, there are clear conditions and strict consequences involved. He who believes will live, he who does not believe will die in his sins and will go to everlasting damnation. We find this expressed once again in the following passage (Jn 8,24):
For unless you believe that I am He, you will die in your sins.
Jn 8,24 "Therefore I said to you that you will die in your sins; for
unless you believe that I am He, you will die in your sins." Jn 8,24;
He who rejects Me, has one who judges him; the word I spoke is what will judge him at the last day.
Jn 12,44 And Jesus cried out and said, "He who believes in Me,
does not believe in Me but in Him who sent Me. 12,45 "He who sees Me sees the One who sent Me.
12,46 "I have come as Light into the world, so that everyone who believes in Me will not remain
in darkness. 12,47 "If anyone hears My sayings and does not keep them, I do not judge him; for
I did not come to judge the world, but to save the world. 12,48 "He who rejects Me and does
not receive My sayings, has one who judges him; the word I spoke is what will judge him at the last
day. Jn 12,44-48;
Now you write in your comments above:
“I cannot find any source of satisfaction in the condemnation of my
non-believing or non-Christian brothers and sisters - it is a prospect that affords me very great
pain, given the human potential for good expressed in their lives. But it seems you view the matter
differently.”
If you are concerned here about your unbelieving and non-Christian brethren, while
in your earlier remarks you dismiss the Lord’s commandment to proclaim to these same unbelievers
and non-Christians the good news of salvation through grace with the words “I am afraid I
completely disagree with this”, then actually you are the one who is condemning these people. By
refusing to proclaim the gospel to them as the one salvation from their godless condition, it is you
who are preventing these people from being saved and so condemning them to eternal damnation.
On the one hand you say that the biblical passages I quote above, from Mt 3,7, 12,24, 23,32 and Jn
8,44, in which the Lord condemns the Pharisees, are “unChristian” - they are after all literal
statements made by the Lord! - while on the other hand you claim that even Far Eastern religions can
lead to a person’s being saved. I ask you, what is more unChristian? Of course God does not wish
for the death of sinners, but rather that they should be converted from their godless ways and come
to eternal life. But if they are to be open to conversion, they must first have had the gospel of
the Son of God preached to them. And that he was himself this Son of God, the Lord did actually make
known to the religious leaders in the Israel of his own time. But when they refused to accept this
message and accused him of being a liar and blasphemer, he described them as sons of the
devil and so displayed their true identity.
And so it is with all those who have heard the gospel, but have not accepted its message: they will
not escape from the wrath to come. And if you want to declare such people to be believing Christians
because they supposedly have a “desire of the heart for God”, this is not just unChristian, it
is purely and simply the dissemination of false doctrine.
Finally I would just like to take issue with your rather rhetorical question as to whether
Christianity is unrealistic. You answer the question yourself immediately, saying:
“Of course. Christianity is completely unrealistic. Hence Tertullian’s
comment ‘Credo quia absurdum est’, and Gandhi’s response when asked what he thought of
Christianity: ‘It would be a good idea’”.
Yes, well, this now is the not so surprising result, when you go to an ancient Roman
church author, who did not even have the New Testament available to him, and an Indian to get an
explanation of the gospel.
When you now refer to me in your above comments, in writing “But it seems you view the matter
differently”, you have hit the nail on the head. Nonetheless - or even for that very reason - I
thank you for having taken the trouble to read the first part of this Discourse and for contributing
your comments. Contributions like yours repeatedly give me the opportunity of comparing them with
the statements to be found in Scripture, and so making it possible for those readers who are not so
familiar with the material to form a judgment. Even if this basically always comes down to the same
theme - Jesus Christ. But you, with your literary background, will no doubt be acquainted with
Goethe’s dictum:
We must keep on repeating the truth,
because error too goes on being preached the whole time all around us.
Must Christians love their enemies?
Part 1, Discourse 75