Criteria and information for the assessment
of the “Toronto Blessing”. / Lecture Andrea Strübing, 2001-06-15
The Spread of the Pentecostal Spirit. /
Lecture Helmut Haasis, 2004-03-13
Rabbi Rabinovich’s speech on the Jewish rule over
the world. / Budapest 1952-01-12
Report on the Charismatic Camp. / Information
Service TOPIC 00, 2004-07-28
The Purpose Driven Church? - God is not Pragmatic
Rick Warren and the “Saddleback Church“ / Book Wilfried Plock, 2005-05-13
A Shocking "Confession" from Willow
Creek Community Church. / Article Bob Burney, 2007-10-30
The Americans Do Not Want Wars / Interview
with Vidal Gore, the cousin of Al Gore, former vice-president of the USA.
Criteria and information for the assessment of the “Toronto Blessing”. / Lecture Andrea Strübind, 2001-06-15Andrea Strübind Th.D., aged 33, is the pastor of a Free Evangelical
(Baptist) congregation in Munich. Until 1995 she was section head with responsibility
for the Free Churches in the Ökumenisch-Missionarisches Institut Berlin [Ecumenical
Missionary Institute of Berlin], a part of the Ökumenischer Rat Berlin [Ecumenical
Council of Berlin], the Berlin ACK. The present text is based on her lecture for the
meeting of the Bundesleitung des Bundes Evangelisch-Freikirchlicher Gemeinden
(Baptisten) BEFG [Governing Body of the Federation of Free Evangelical Congregations
(Baptists)] in February 1995. This lecture is published with the kind permission of the
author here at Immanuel.at in Discourse 33 |
The Spread of the Pentecostal Spirit / Lecture Helmut Haasis, 2004-3-13The slightly edited version of a lecture given by Helmut Haasis,
a Bremen educationalist, at the spring conference of the “Arbeitsgemeinschaft
Bekennende Gemeinde” [Confessing Congregation Working Group] in association with the
85th Bünde Conference (12-14 March 2004) in Bünde-Hüffen. It has been taken from
newssheet no. 35/7,2004 of the Arbeitsgemeinschaft Bekennende Gemeinde, and is published
with kind permission of the author here at Immanuel.at in Discourse
70 |
The Canadian Intelligence Service - Excerpt from September 1952 issue - submitted by
James Moorhouse:
The following speech was given by Rabbi Emanuel Rabinovich before a special meeting of the Emergency
Council of European Rabbis in Budapest, Hungary, January 12, 1952:
"Greetings, my children;
You have been called her to recapitulate the principal steps of our new program. As you know, we had
hoped to have twenty years between wars to consolidate the great gains which we made from World War
II, but our increasing numbers in certain vital areas is arousing opposition to us, and we must now
work with every means at our disposal to precipitate World War III.
The goal for which we have striven so concertedly for 3000 years is at last within our reach, and
because its fulfillment is so apparent, it behooves us to increase our efforts and our caution
tenfold. I can safely promise you that before ten years have passed, our race will take its rightful
place in the world, with every Jew a king and every Gentile a slave (Applause from the gathering).
You remember the success of our propaganda campaign during the 1930's, which aroused anti-American
passions in Germany at the same time we were arousing anti-German passions in America, a campaign
which culminated in the Second World War. A similar propaganda campaign is now being waged
intensively throughout the world. A war fever is being worked up in Russia by an incessant
anti-American barrage while a nationwide anti-Communist scare is sweeping America. This campaign is
forcing all the smaller nations to choose between the partnership of Russia or an alliance with the
United States.
Our most pressing problem at the moment is to inflame the lagging militaristic spirit of the
Americans. The failure of the Universal Military Training Act was a great setback to our plans, but
we are assured that a suitable measure will be rushed through Congress immediately after the 1952
elections. The Russians, as well as the Asiatic peoples, are well under control and offer no
objections to war, but we must wait to secure the Americans. This program will achieve its
objective, the Third World War, which will surpass in destruction all previous contests.
Israeli, of course, will remain neutral, and when both sides are devastated and exhausted, we will
arbitrate, sending our Control Commissions into all wrecked countries. This war will end for all
time our struggle against the Gentiles. We will openly reveal our identity with the races of Asia
and Africa. I can state with assurance that the last generation of white children is now being born.
Our Control Commissions will, in the interests of peace and wiping out interracial tensions. Forbid
the whites to mate with whites. The White Women must cohabit with members of the dark races, the
White Men with dark women. Thus the white race will disappear, for the mixing of the dark with then
white means the end of the white man, and our most dangerous enemy will become only a memory. We
shall embark upon an era of ten thousand years of peace and plenty, the Pax Judaica, and our race
will rule undisputed over the world. Our superior intelligence will easily enable us to retain
mastery over a world of dark peoples.”
Question from the gathering: Rabbi Rabinovich, what about the various religions after the
Third World War?
Rabinovich: “There will be no more religions. Not only would the existence of a priest
class remain a constant danger to our rule, but belief in an afterlife would give spiritual strength
to irreconcilable elements in many countries, and enable them to resist us. We will, however, retain
the rituals and customs of Judaism as the mark of our hereditary ruling caste, strengthening our
racial laws so that no Jew will be allowed to marry outside our race, nor will any stranger be
accepted by us.
We may have to repeat the grim days of World War II, when we were forced to let the Hitlerite
bandits sacrifice some of our people, in order that we may have adequate documentation and witnesses
to legally justify our trial and execution of the leaders of America and Russia as war criminals,
after we have dictated the peace. I am sure you will need little preparation for such a duty, for
sacrifice has always been the watchword of our people, and the death of a few thousand Jews in
exchange for world leadership is indeed a small price to pay. To convince you of the certainty of
that leadership, let me point out to you how we have turned all of the inventions of the White Man
into weapons against him. Hid printing presses and radios are the mouthpieces of our desires, and
his heavy industry manufactures the instruments which he sends out to arm Asia and Africa against
him.
Our interests in Washington are greatly extending the ‘Point-Four’-Program for developing
industry in backward areas of the world, so that after the industrial plants and cities of Europe
and America are destroyed by atomic warfare, the Whites can offer no resistance against the large
masses of the dark races, who will maintain an unchallenged technological superiority. And so, with
the vision of world victory before you, go back to your countries and intensify your good work,
until that approaching day when Israeli will reveal herself in all her glorious destiny as the Light
of the World.”
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Ex-Charismatics Report: How we were deceived in Charismatic circles.
They are willing to testify under oath before every court of this world as to what they personally
experienced. And they were also ready to give their full identities for their statements in this
article. TOPIC advised them against this, however, for their own personal protection. Therefore, we
will simply call them Elisabeth and Joachim. This 58-year-old and 32-year-old wrote down what they
experienced among the Charismatics on several pages of DIN-A4 paper, and TOPIC has requested
permission to make a summary of what they wrote.
Elisabeth is the one who, after her conversion, experienced almost everything in eight years of
being a Charismatic. She attended the famous “Airport Vineyard Fellowship” in Toronto
three times. It was there that the “Toronto Blessing” began, in the early 1990s, which made
people worldwide fall screaming, laughing or cackling like chickens to the ground - allegedly
through the influence of the Holy Spirit. Elisabeth visited a Charismatically oriented Feast of
Tabernacles in Jerusalem eight times and attended numerous happenings led by Walter
Heidenreich, Christoph Häselbarth, Benny Hinn, Garry
and Lilo Keller or Mahesh Chavda.
Books in particular had made Elisabeth curious about the Charismatic movement and she simply wanted
to become acquainted with the “many glistening stars in the great wide Pentecostal sky”: “Our
congregation was simply too small for me.”
For that reason Elisabeth began to attend large Charismatic happenings, such as the “Get ready
Großtreffen (Get Ready Major Happening)” of the Freien Christlichen Jugendgemeinschaft
Lüdenscheid (Free Christian Youth Fellowship of Ludenscheid) (FCJG) under the leadership
of the well-known Charismatic Walter Heidenreich. In the 1990s, Heidenreich organized
Charismatic happenings in the Lüdenscheid shooting hall (the FCJG now has its own hall) for
thousands of visitors, where voguish international prophets, healers and Charismatic stars always
appeared.
Elisabeth recalls that, after a FCJG evening with deafening rock music, “The next night I had
horrible dreams about Jesus, saw him as hideous and then as sexually perverse. I went down on my
knees in my hotel room and repented in tears. I didn’t want that at all.” Despite this
experience, Elisabeth went to the small town in Sauerland several more times and describes the end
of one of Heidenreich’s appearances as follows: “On the last evening we stood on the chairs and
tables, completely drunk with the Holy Spirit, and sang as Walter Heidenreich instructed us, ‘Trink,
trink, Brüderlein, trink’ and ‘Einer geht noch, einer geht noch rein.’ (Two popular German
drinking songs. They can be translated as “Drink, drink, little brother, drink,” and “Another
one goes down, another one goes down smooth.”) It was like a Munich beer festival.”
Elisabeth met a woman in Lüdenscheid who raved to her about how terrific baptism in the Spirit was
at the Jewish Feast of Tabernacles of the organization International Christian Embassy Jerusalem.
It was there that the “umbilical cord of heaven and the complete fullness of the blessing” was
to be found. Elisabeth traveled to Israel and actually did experience the Charismatic baptism of the
Spirit in a healing service led by the Indian Mahesh Chavda: “Chavda shouted: ‘Who hasn’t been
baptized by the Spirit yet?’ Someone gave me a shove from behind. Now or never! That was how I
went forward, along with many others.
“Chavda laid his hands on everyone personally, and if the individual did not collapse, Chavda blew
on him. What I then experienced, while lying on the floor, surpassed everything that I knew until
then. Feelings of love without end. I did not want to stand up any more and could not either. I was
another person. Now I knew Jesus as a lover. From then on, I could also speak in tongues
[glossolalia, ecstatic speech], lay hands on others or breathe on them and they fell on their backs.
Healing was not rare any more either. I was now ‘someone’ high up on this hierarchical ladder.”
Such baptisms of the Spirit or encounters with people who have been gifted by the occult do not,
apparently, always go as “mildly” as Elisabeth’s baptism of the Spirit in Jerusalem did. After
a healing service with the Charismatic leader Christoph Häselbarth in Friedrichschafen am Bodensee,
Elisabeth experienced something that filled her with fear and terror. After Häselbarth and his
healing team had attempted to lengthen the leg of one of Elisabeth’s coworkers through spiritual
healing, this woman returned completely changed: “My coworker was gone a long time. She spoke
confusedly and chaotically; she banged her head on the table top, cried, laughed, and did this after
one of Häselbarth’s healing services. She didn’t even know where she was. In the end she wanted
to walk on the Bodensee, like Peter.”
During a stay with Walter Heidenreich’s youth fellowship in Lüdenscheid, Joachim also learned
that such contacts with a supernatural world could have serious consequences for non-Christians as
well as for Christians. Before Joachim became a Christian in 2001, he had been active for seven
years in esotericism. As a practitioner of Reiki, he had been initiated into the basic mysteries of
this Japanese supernatural healing therapy. In principle, in Reiki, a Reiki master transfers an
occult power to people.
Joachim stayed for one week in Lüdenscheid, because he first wanted to become thoroughly acquainted
with the work of the youth fellowship among drug addicts. An engrossing book on the subject had
awakened his curiosity. He attended other FCJG events as well and was impressed by the healing
miracles that occurred there. Joachim said: “I have seen with my own eyes how people can be healed
of physical afflictions through prayer.”
Although members of his Baptist home church had warned him not to let anyone lay hands on him in
Lüdenscheid on any account, all barriers to that gradually fell away: “Because of what I
experienced and saw in Lüdenscheid, I could no longer accept the warnings from home.”
Thus, at one FCJG event with the Charismatic leader Olli (Reiner) Ewers Joachim was
prepared to receive the baptism of the Spirit. Ewers went through the rows of listeners and, by
laying his hands on the people, transferred supersensory effects that threw people to the floor: “The
closer Olli came to me, the greater my tension. When he laid his hands on people, I heard how he
prayed briefly again and again in tongues and frequently also said: “Reason must go!” He also
snapped his fingers regularly as a matter of course .... With me, Olli also prayed something in
tongues. He laid his hand on my upper forehead and told me too that the mind had to go ....
Suddenly, in a kind of weightless state, I noticed that I was toppling over backwards. I saw
everything that happened in my mind. I realized that I was falling and that I was caught and laid
down on the floor. To be sure, during those moments I lost the sense of physicality completely. It
felt like I was floating.”
Two days after this experience Joachim visited another FCJG event, where those present were
requested to sing a song “in tongues.” “When the singing began, I experienced a stirring in
the area of my larynx that I had never before experienced. I felt completely forced to raise my
voice also. I opened my mouth, formed a sound and then it went automatically. Without thinking about
it any longer, I experienced how the Spirit used my vocal chords to form arbitrary sounds that were
completely strange to me .... And although I had no knowledge of what I said, I understood at that
moment what had just happened: the gift of speaking in tongues had been awakened in me. Thus, I was
now certain I had received the baptism of the Spirit as taught in Pentecostal/Charismatic circles.”
But these experiences were not the end of it. When he was home again, Joachim experienced, to his
horror, that phenomena appeared during his prayer time that he recognized from his esoteric period:
“On one morning, during my quiet time, the easy seesawing of my body that I experienced regularly
when speaking in tongues suddenly turned into a strong shaking. My arms, which I had stretched above
me in prayer, also began to move back and forth very vehemently and my whole upper body was suddenly
shaken violently .... I experienced such shaking for the first time at an initiation ceremony into
the first Reiki degree. When my female master told me to open myself to this energy, I sensed
completely that a strange power entered my body and shook my whole body violently.” This Reiki
shaking, which returned constantly, stopped only when Joachim renounced Reiki in a prayer after his
conversion. Now it was back and the young Christian asked himself “if the Holy Spirit would
manifest itself precisely like this Reiki spirit.”
Joachim gradually realized what he had let himself in for through his baptism in the Holy Spirit.
Prayers for clarity and studies of Bible passages like Isaiah 28, verse 13, in which those who have
fallen backwards are presented in a negative way, brought Joachim to utter a prayer of renunciation
again - this time in reference to his baptism in the Spirit. “Already on that same day I noticed
that these supernatural phenomena, which regularly occurred precisely during my prayer time could no
longer manifest themselves. The seesawing did not return and I was also no longer compelled to speak
in tongues. To my joy, I could see that the false spirit has again lost its influence on my life
....”
Elisabeth was able to escape from the Charismatic labyrinth as well. Some well-known evangelists and
literature critical of the Charismatic movement helped her in this. Today Elisabeth views her time
as a member of the Charismatic movement as follows: “I am ashamed of myself before Jesus Christ
for all those blasphemies. God opens our eyes step by step. I knelt again and again, also with my
coworker. We cried and begged God and our Lord Jesus Christ for forgiveness. Thanks be to him that
he pulled us out of this mire of madness.”
There is much in the stories of these ex-members of the Charismatic movement that is identical.
Particularly striking here is the almost feverish attempt in the Pentecostal/Charismatic circles to
inoculate the believers as quickly as possible with a new spirit. This spirit appears to be
transferred like a virus through the laying on of hands or even merely through participation in such
events. That this Pentecostal/Charismatic spirit is not the Holy Spirit is shown not only by reports
from church history as a whole but again and again from testimonies such as those from Elisabeth and
Joachim.
Jesus himself warns in his discourse on the end times (Mt 24) against those who falsely claim to
bring salvation, who attempt to deceive the “elect” with signs and wonders. These false Christs
and prophets have been among us for a long time and are up to mischief.
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Rick Warren and the “Saddleback Church“
Rick Warren did not, to be sure, study at Fuller Seminary like Schwarz, but he writes in his book, The
Purpose-Driven Church (in German: Leben mit Vision [life with vision]; note) that he came
across the name McGavran for the first time in 1974: “As I sat there and read this article on
Donald McGavran, I had no idea that it would dramatically impact the direction of my ministry ....”
Together with his wife Kay, Rick Warren started his church work in Saddleback Valley, south of Los
Angeles. Today it is one of the largest Christian churches in the Western hemisphere. The founder of
this church is a visionary. On March 30, 1980 Rick Warren dreamed of a church of 20,000 members,
hundreds of missionaries being sent out and a large piece of land with many beautiful facilities. He
and his coworkers labored for two decades to realize these goals. Part of their dream was already
reality. The weekend church services are the center of the church activities. There are two on
Saturday night and three on Sunday. These services are attended by many people each week.
Non-Christians are the target audience of these services. The music is modern and loud and the
clothing is casual. Rick Warren’s addresses are thematic and relevant. That means: they have
something to do with the practical everyday life of the listeners (which, of course, is not bad in
principle). One sermon series, for example, is called: “From Burnout to Balance.” The church
offers more than 150 different activities. There are hundreds of small groups and an extensive youth
program. Saddleback functions as a model and sees itself as a trend setter. The model of the “purpose-driven
church” became known primarily through Rick Warren’s book of the same name. In the meantime,
more than one million copies have been sold in more than 20 languages.
The Purpose-Driven Church
Rick Warren’s book, The Purpose Driven Church, appeared in 1995, and underwent 36 printings
within a very short time in the USA. The book became a mega-seller. It was published in Germany in
1998 by Projection J Verlag and here as well it has already sold over ten thousand copies. Moreover,
since the appearance of the original, 500,000 church leaders worldwide have become acquainted with
“the principles ... that produce healthy, growing churches.” Why is The Purpose-Driven Church
so attractive? Why do people use such superlatives when complimenting the book? Here are some
examples (all taken from the first few pages of the book): “This book is a rare treasure of godly
wisdom, totally scriptural, inspired by the Spirit .... Every pastor must read this book!”
(Bill Bright, who has since died); “Rick Warren is the architect for the church of the 21st
century, and this is his blueprint!” (Bruce Larson); “Nobody does healthy church growth better
than Rick Warren” (Jim Reeves); “The Purpose-Driven Church is perhaps the crown jewel of
church growth literature” (Randy Pope); “Rick Warren is the one all of us should listen to and
learn from” (Robert Schuller). “This book could have as significant an impact on the future of
Christianity as any book released in recent years” (Ronnie Floyd); “I consider Rick Warren to be
one of the greatest thinkers in the church today” (Dwight Reighard); “Rick Warren is a genius
...” (Ed Young, Jr.); These assessments come from highly respected Christian leaders in the USA.
Indeed, The Purpose-Driven Church is worth reading. Those readers who have knowledge of the
Bible and are capable of discernment will find an abundance of valuable insights and stimulae. When
asked about the secret of its success, the author himself answered that the secret of his book was
that it was, so to say, the “intel chip” of building up the church! You cannot help but
characterize this statement as presumptuous. We always find the “intel chip” (the most
frequently installed PC processor worldwide) in the New Testament. With similar “self-confidence,”
Dr. Warren speaks of his most recent book, The Purpose-Driven Life, stating that he is
confident - in faith - that the book could be an instrument for change sideways through American and
then the world. However, what the recommendations cited above conceal or do not recognize is the
fact that this book also contains very controversial, questionable and also misleading passages. Our
examination is intended both to appreciate the positive aspects as well as to indicate the negative
by name. Here, my remarks will be based not on a thorough reading of Warren’s book but on my own
observation. I spent some time in Los Angeles in the spring of 2000, at which time I was able to
visit Saddleback several times and form an impression of the work.
Rick Warren’s High Regard for the Church
The book as a whole expresses the author’s high regard for the church. Without a doubt, Warren is
devoted to church growth. He does not view the local church as an organization but as a family. In
an era of “frustrations about the church” and “traumas about the church,” this way of
looking at things is welcome. At the end of the book we read these splendid sentences: “I love the
church with all of my heart. It is the most brilliant concept ever created. If we intend to be like
Jesus, we must love the church as he does, and we must teach others to love the church as well ....”
I approved fully and completely of this passion for the church of Christ. It is exemplary.
The Emphasis on Church Health
Although Warren himself is strongly influenced by the “church growth movement,” in his book he
emphasizes time and again the significance of “church health.” At Saddleback this is taken to
mean a balance between the elements of small groups, discipleship, worship, Sunday School - and in
particular between evangelization on the one hand and the continued development of Christians on the
other. Warren says literally regarding this: “The secret of a healthy church is balance.” The
goal to which they aspire here is not only to convert people but to lead them to spiritual maturity.
Another core section reads “Churches grow warmer through fellowship; churches grow deeper through
discipleship; churches grow stronger through worship; churches grow broader through service;
churches grow larger through evangelism.” To see things this way is excellent. I wish that many
churches would learn from Saddleback in these areas and would work more systematically. According to
my observations, only a few churches in German-speaking areas have simultaneous activities and
programs for evangelism and for the continued growth of members. Either churches evangelize and
neglect the growth of Christians - or vice versa. Here, indeed, many founders of churches could
learn from Saddleback’s example. What Rick Warren writes in chapter 4, “The Foundation for a
Healthy Church,” is among the best in his book. And one can also agree with him that it would do
many churches good to have a clear view of their proper task.
Good Quotes and All Kinds of Practical Tips
Warren has a feel for how to insert sharp quotes at appropriate places. When talking about habits,
he cites Fyodor Dostoyevski: “The second half of a man’s life is made up of the habits he
acquired during the first half.” When he speaks of convictions, he quotes Howard Hendriks: “A
belief is something you will argue about. A conviction is something you will die for.”
Throughout the entire book, the reader can find an abundance of useful ideas, stimulae and practical
tips. A true treasure house! extends from, e.g. page 241-61 (in the German version). On the basis of
my visit in 2000, I can confirm that these principles are practiced in Saddleback.
Attention for Evangelism, Daughter Churches and World Mission
The Saddleback church could send out 200 professional missionaries in the next 20 years. In the Los
Angeles area more than 30 daughter churches have been established. Its missionary passion and the
concern to win people for Christ are real, even exemplary. It is an enormous step forward when there
is a permanent missionary concern in the church rather than a case of evangelism being done only
occasionally (however fruitful it may be). Evangelism and consistent induction into discipleship,
the attempts at teaching, etc. are fixed elements of church life in Saddleback.
The Emphasis on Willingness to Serve
Saddleback does not tolerate any consumer Christianity. Warren and his coworkers strive to turn as
many believers as possible into active ministers in the church. The explanations for that on pages
365-67 (in the German version) are worth reading. Beyond that, the church organizes pastors’
conferences. More than 180,000 pastors and leaders from (other) denominations have already visited
the “purpose-driven training” courses. The many offers via the internet do the rest. Saddleback
understands itself as the church of the future. Rick Warren is - the magazine founded by Billy
Graham, Christianity Today, states - the pastor with by now probably the greatest influence
on Christians in America. Not only does he speak about church growth; he also emphasizes church
health. By that Warren understands a balance between evangelism directed outward and the growth of
believers. First, people are won for Christ in the guest worship services. Then they attempt to
steer these converts into four different courses so that they will grow. Warren sees this process as
the core of a “purpose-driven church.” It is in this attempt at balance, no doubt, that the
strength of the Saddleback church lies. This list, which does not claim to be complete, shows why I
absolutely recommend reading The Purpose-Driven Church, if the reader tackles it with a
discernment trained by the Word of God.
The Negative is not Concealed in the Bible
“Do not despise prophetic utterances. But examine everything carefully; hold fast to that which is
good; abstain from every form of evil” (1 Thess 5, 20-22). After I had once publicly expressed a
critical remark on another concept of church in public, a young theologian wrote to me. He held that
Paul had requested that the Thessalonians merely examine everything and to hold to whatever was
good. Paul did not demand that the evil be cited as well. This view seems to me to be symptomatic of
our age. The philosophy of tolerance would like to leave everything as it is and avoid fundamental
critique as much as possible. Above all, limits are renounced. However, whoever reads the New
Testament attentively will see that both Jesus Christ and the apostles often engaged in criticism
and setting limits (Mt 16,11-12; Mt 23; 1 Cor 15,12; 2 Cor 11,1-4; 3 Jn 9-10; etc.). Paul even
reprimanded Peter publicly when it concerned “the truth of the gospel” (Gal 2,14).
No Pleasure in Exposing Errors
Yet something else is to be emphasized at this point. I take no pleasure in exposing the errors and
failings of another. I would prefer to conclude now. But precisely because Saddleback exercises such
an influence on so many churches in the world - as perhaps hardly any single congregation has done
before in history - Rick Warren must allow himself and his concept to be measured against Holy
Scripture. In the end, it concerns the truth of the gospel and the building up of the church as
taught in the New Testament. If one were to examine closely the church to which I belong, for
example, one could, of course, find just as many errors and defects in the church. My church,
indeed, does not have any formative influence worldwide; nevertheless, I am pleased when someone
with a sincere attitude alerts us to things that are not right in our church. In the end, sincere
admonition helps more than flattery. Our responsibility lies in speaking the truth in humility and
with the intention to help. Suppressing the truth helps no one in the end. Truth must remain truth,
even if it speaks against us or if we leave ourselves open to attack when speaking the truth. I will
believe Warren when he says he wants to please God and am also prepared to learn from him. I have
marked many passages in his book as positive. But I cannot be silent when his model is extolled as
the new remedy for churches worldwide. His “medication” has “side effects” that are too
strong.
The Obvious Disregard of Biblical Teachings
Rick Warren is a master of pragmatism. Pragmatism is - as we saw in the first part - the view that
things are to be judged not according to higher principles but primarily according to their
functionality. Pragmatism is goal-oriented thinking. This is precisely my main criticism of Warren’s
concept. At Saddleback, pragmatism is the dominating factor. We Europeans have the inclination to
theorize, but Rick Warren succumbs to the other extreme, which is occasionally (and often rightly)
said of Americans. He thinks and works pragmatically with no restrictions. Pragmatism is
goal-oriented thinking. Even when Warren states repeatedly that he considers Bible study important,
he then weakens this statement by saying that study without praxis remains fruitless. In a section
on the “myths” about spiritual maturity, which Warren considers incorrect, he also criticizes
the view that Bible study alone is sufficient for growth (“maturity myth No. 6”). He writes
literally: “The last thing many believers need is to go to another Bible study. They already know
far more than they are putting into practice.” According to this philosophy, one must abandon
Bible study almost completely because almost all Christians already know more than they can convert
in to practical everyday life. In addition, Warren forgets that there is also “informative
teaching,” that serves to help one understand and explain why, for example, the main teaching of
the Roman Catholic doctrine is wrong. I see it as an error to hold that Bible study alone will
produce maturity. In my view, Warren is shooting here at a “straw man.” I have never come across
a Christian - not in America either - who claimed that. Rather, such statements in The
Purpose-Driven Church unintentionally reveal the philosophy of pragmatism lying behind it.
The Much too Weakly Developed “Doctrine of the Church” (Ecclesiology)
In the end, Warren builds his “ecclesiology” on two biblical passages “You shall love the Lord
your God with all your heart ...”(Mt 22,37-40) and “Go therefore and make disciples of all the
nations ...” (Mt 28,19-20). From these passages the author derives five purposes for a
purpose-driven church. To be sure, these five purposes are in no way wrong as such, but they are
defined partially wrongly and merely constitute a small excerpt from the entire New Testament
teaching on the church. This is an inadmissible reduction. Unfortunately, The Purpose-Driven
Church lacks a biblically grounded definition of the concept and task of the church. For a book
like this, that is an unforgivable omission.
The Lack of an Overview of Salvation History
This point touches on a hermeneutical problem. “Hermeneutics” is the theory of understanding and
interpreting Holy Scripture. Personally, I am convinced that the Bible is to be understood from the
perspective of salvation history. Rick Warren appears to be unacquainted with this principle of
interpretation. In chapter 12 - about which I am definitely unhappy - he explains how Christ
attracted crowds. He does not say a word here about the fact that Jesus’ ministry was
characterized by two entirely different phases. In the first, the Savior proclaimed the coming of
the Kingdom of God (Mt 4-11). Then he was definitely rejected by the leaders of Israel as the
Messiah (Mt 12). From that point on, the second phase of his service began, with emphasis on
instructing the disciples (from Mt 13 on). Why does Warren not mention that Christ drew crowds
mainly in the “Kingdom of God phase”? Few remained of the large crowds when the Son of God
preached the cross and the price of discipleship (Jn 6:66-69). Is there any instance where Paul, our
special example in church growth, attracted the masses? And can we find any instance where the other
apostles were very popular after the initial phase (Acts 2-6)? Paul had to write to the Corinthians:
“For, I think, God has exhibited us apostles last of all, as men condemned to death; because we
have become a spectacle to the world, both to angels and to men” (I Cor 4,9). In human terms, it
is not particularly difficult in North America for a gifted evangelist to attract a hall full of
people; particularly when the program is so tailored for the target groups as in Saddleback or
Willow Creek. But when Warren holds out the prospect to the reader in the aforementioned chapter 12
that all those founding churches could, nevertheless, actually preach to large crowds if only they
would tackle it properly, then he has left biblical ground.
Seeker Sensitive “Worship Services”
Warren recommends seeker-sensitive “worship services” as a brilliant plan for evangelism. As a
pragmatist, he has no problem with this style. He justifies his approach by Jesus’ statements “Come
and you will see ...” (Jn 1,39) and “Come to me, all ...” (Mt 11,28). To be sure, here he
overlooks the fact that Christ invited the unbelievers to himself and not to the meetings of the New
Testament church! That is a major difference. However, whoever wants to keep strictly to the
instructions of the New Testament will be more restrained. Where does it say in the epistles of the
New Testament that we should invite non-believers to our “worship services”? The opposite is the
case: “Go into all the world and preach the gospel to all creation” (Mk 16,15). The goal of the
coming together of the local church is, according to Scripture, to worship God, to build up
believers as well as equipping them for service. Nevertheless, if non-Christians want to listen to
our sermons, they are, obviously, very welcome - and many have already been touched by God in this
way. We are, however, nowhere called upon to change the function of the “worship service” into
an evangelical event. In 1 Corinthians 14,23 and James 2,2ff. it is explained in an exemplary
fashion what could happen if, by way of exception, an unbeliever is nonetheless present. In exactly
the same way we are not urged by the passages to orient the program and the proclamation to seekers.
There are countless good opportunities for evangelism outside the worship services. Why should we,
contrary to the New Testament principle, do that in “worship services”? If we do this, however,
it is not Holy Scripture that drives us but pragmatism. We then turn the “shrine” into a “forecourt.”
We exchange, so to speak, our silver cutlery for plastic. For whoever says “A” must also say “B.”
Whoever orients the church services in accordance with the taste of non-Christians must inevitably
introduce rock music, plays, thematic sermons, etc. Then the motto does read: “Main concern: I get
visitors from my target group at my event.” The well-known Bible exegete John MacArthur points out
that, after the death of Ananias and Sapphira great fear overcame all who heard about it (Acts
5,11). He continues: After verse 13, the unbelievers did not dare associate with them. That stands
in diametrical opposition to the currently so popular philosophy of user-friendliness. Instead of
enticing the people by giving them the feeling that they are welcome and safe, God used fear to keep
them out. Likewise, Erwin Lutzer, the pastor-teacher of the Moody Bible Church in Chicago, describes
the tension between the love and holiness of the church: the love in the church attracts the world;
the holiness within the church condemns it. At the time of the early church, those outside the
church experienced great fear when they saw how the church devoted itself to discipline and a holy
life. Now the proponents of this model argue that the seeker worship services are merely
evangelistic events under different names. The worship service for the church would take place at
midweek. The believers in Saddleback do meet on Wednesday evening. Nevertheless, I cannot agree with
this view. On the one hand, it would still undermine the biblical “concept of the worship service.”
The New Testament describes the coming together of Christians as a meeting of believers. In such a
meeting God is worshiped, Christians are built up and equipped. On the other hand, I fear that most
churches in our country that offer “visitor-friendly services” evangelize only on Sunday,
without equal intensity for the complete, required provisions for teaching, building up and
equipping. Again, pragmatism contributes to a trivialization of the biblical view of church life. A
church needs “sound teaching” to strengthen faith and becoming deeply rooted in the Lord (Acts
2,42; 11, 26; etc.). That Rick Warren has little understanding of such questions is shown by the
fact that he describes the critics of the visitor-friendly approach on pages 237-38 sweepingly as
“Pharisees” and as those who shoot arrows. In that way he immunizes himself against any
biblically grounded correction.
The Anthropocentric Approach
In the Bible God is at the center (theocentric) and not the human being (anthropocentric). This was
how it was to be in the New Testament church (Eph 3,21). This view was undisputed for hundreds of
years. Only in the 20th century, in the age of “existentialism,” did Christian leaders dare to
place the human being with his needs as such at the center of the event. Where this happens, the
church of Christ is in danger of losing sight of God’s glory and deteriorating into a
psychologized “need satisfaction institution.”
Warren makes no secret of his “market strategy”
In The Purpose-Driven Church, Warren reveals his foundational philosophy to the reader: “A
good salesman knows you always start with the customer’s needs, not the product.” Two pages
further, he writes: “Simply thinking through the needs of the audience will help determine God’s
will for the message.” These sentences could come just as easily from the pen of the marketing
specialist George Barna. Along with my companions, I could see at his Easter service in 2000 that
Warren really acts in accordance with this motto. He even managed to explain one of the “great
acts of God” in an entirely anthropocentric way (in line with the theme: “What does the
Resurrection mean for our everyday lives?”). But such sermon content fits the fundamental attitude
of the preacher precisely. In a section concerned with the needs of human beings, he writes: “It
is my deep conviction that anybody can be won to Christ if you discover the key to his or her heart
.... The most likely place to start is with the person’s felt needs.” I am interested in how
Pastor Warren brings this statement into harmony with the biblical teaching of the elect (Jn 6,44;
Rom 8,29-30; Eph 1,4-6; etc.). In my estimation, Rick Warren, along with many other preachers, is in
danger of proclaiming a message that would, in the first instance, respond to the longing for
happiness. After more than 20 years experience in evangelism, I know about the difficult wrestling
of how many truths of discipleship one can ask of a non-believer. One thing is, however, clear.
Whoever always preaches a message of “Come to Jesus and you’ll be happy” proclaims a reduced
version of the gospel. If a listener hears only a proclamation of this kind, he will find it
difficult to arrive at true life from God.
COLUMBUS, Ohio (BP) -If you are older than 40 the name Benjamin Spock is more than
familiar. It was Spock that told an entire generation of parents to take it easy, don't discipline
your children and allow them to express themselves. Discipline, he told us, would warp a child's
fragile ego. Millions followed this guru of child development and he remained unchallenged among
child rearing professionals. However, before his death Dr. Spock made an amazing discovery: He was
wrong. In fact, he said:
"We have reared a generation of brats. Parents aren't firm enough with
their children for fear of losing their love or incurring their resentment. This is a cruel
deprivation that we professionals have imposed on mothers and fathers. Of course, we did it with the
best of intentions. We didn't realize until it was too late how our know-it-all attitude was
undermining the self assurance of parents."
Oops.
Something just as momentous, in my opinion, just happened in the evangelical community. For most of
a generation evangelicals have been romanced by the "seeker-sensitive" movement spawned by
Willow Creek Community Church in Chicago. The guru of this movement is Bill Hybels. He and others
have been telling us for decades to throw out everything we have previously thought and been taught
about church growth and replace it with a new paradigm, a new way to do ministry.
Perhaps inadvertently, with this "new wave" of ministry came a de-emphasis on taking
personal responsibility for Bible study combined with an emphasis on felt-needs based
"programs" and slick marketing.
The size of the crowd rather than the depth of the heart determined success. If the crowd was large
then they though surely God was blessing the ministry. Churches were built by demographic studies,
professional strategists, marketing research, meeting "felt needs" and sermons consistent
with these techniques. We were told that preaching was out, relevance was in. Doctrine didn't matter
nearly as much as innovation. If it wasn't "cutting edge" and consumer friendly it was
doomed. The mention of sin, salvation and sanctification were taboo and replaced by Starbucks,
strategy and sensitivity.
Thousands of pastors hung on every word that emanated from the lips of the church growth experts.
Satellite seminars were packed with hungry church leaders learning the latest way to "do
church." The promise was clear: Thousands of people and millions of dollars couldn't be wrong.
Forget what people need, give them what they want. How can you argue with the numbers? If you dared
to challenge the "experts" you were immediately labeled as a "traditionalist," a
throwback to the 50s, a stubborn dinosaur unwilling to change with the times.
All that changed recently.
Willow Creek has released the results of a multi-year study on the effectiveness of their programs
and philosophy of ministry. The study's findings are in a new book titled "Reveal: Where Are
You?," co-authored by Cally Parkinson and Greg Hawkins, executive pastor of Willow Creek
Community Church. Hybels himself called the findings "ground breaking," "earth
shaking" and "mind blowing." And no wonder: It seems that the "experts"
were wrong.
The report reveals that most of what they have been doing for these many years and what they have
taught millions of others to do is not producing solid disciples of Jesus Christ. Numbers yes, but
not disciples. It gets worse. Hybels laments:
"Some of the stuff that we have put millions of dollars into thinking it
would really help our people grow and develop spiritually, when the data actually came back it
wasn't helping people that much. Other things that we didn't put that much money into and didn't put
much staff against is stuff our people are crying out for."
If you simply want a crowd, the "seeker-sensitive" model produces results.
If you want solid, sincere, mature followers of Christ, it's a bust. In a shocking confession,
Hybels states:
"We made a mistake. What we should have done when people crossed the line
of faith and become Christians, we should have started telling people and teaching people that they
have to take responsibility to become 'self feeders.' We should have gotten people, taught people,
how to read their Bible between services, how to do the spiritual practices much more aggressively
on their own."
Incredibly, the guru of church growth now tells us that people need to be reading
their Bibles and taking responsibility for their spiritual growth.
Just as Spock's "mistake" was no minor error, so the error of the seeker-sensitive
movement is monumental in its scope. The foundation of thousands of American churches is now
discovered to be mere sand. The one individual who has had perhaps the greatest influence on the
American church in our generation has now admitted his philosophy of ministry, in large part, was a
"mistake." The extent of this error defies measurement.
Perhaps the most shocking thing of all in this revelation coming out of Willow Creek is in a summary
statement by Greg Hawkins:
"Our dream is that we fundamentally change the way we do church. That we
take out a clean sheet of paper and we rethink all of our old assumptions. Replace it with new
insights. Insights that are informed by research and rooted in Scripture. Our dream is really to
discover what God is doing and how he's asking us to transform this planet."
Isn't that what we were told when this whole seeker-sensitive thing started? The
church growth gurus again want to throw away their old assumptions and "take out a clean sheet
of paper" and, presumably, come up with a new paradigm for ministry.
Should this be encouraging?
Please note that "rooted in Scripture" still follows "rethink," "new
insights" and "informed research." Someone, it appears, still might not get it.
Unless there is a return to simple biblical (and relevant) principles, a new faulty scheme will
replace the existing one and another generation will follow along as the latest piper plays.
What we should find encouraging, at least, in this "confession" coming from the highest
ranks of the Willow Creek Association is that they are coming to realize that their existing
"model" does not help people grow into mature followers of Jesus Christ. Given the massive
influence this organization has on the American church today, let us pray that God would be pleased
to put structures in place at Willow Creek that foster not mere numeric growth, but growth in grace.
Bob Burney is Salem Communications' award-winning host of "Bob Burney Live,"
heard weekday afternoons on WRFD-AM 880 in Columbus, Ohio. This column originally appeared at
Townhall.com.
http://www.crosswalk.com/pastors/11558438/
Interview with Vidal Gore, the cousin of Al Gore, former vice-president of
the USA
“The American people do not want war. The leaders of the United States, the owners of this
country, must, however, conduct wars. Otherwise, they do not receive the necessary money for the
Pentagon, sums that are then passed on to Boeing and Lockheed. It is also very important that we
have enemies. That is why we always create new ones.
In comparison, the American people do not even know where the countries in question are located on
the map. We do not have any public school system; the average American has almost no education in
general. In America we have a quarter billion people of whom more than half are functionally
illiterate. Only one per cent of Americans read books at all.
The United States has a tendency to demonize foreign individuals. They are allegedly drug addicts,
they cheat on their wives, wear women’s clothes, etc. Since Pearl Harbor, no country has invaded
us. We have always attacked other countries first. And we always have an excuse ready. These
countries shelter terrorists or they are on the point of abandoning the free world and becoming
communist.
We have a one-party system with two right wings; one calls itself Republican, the other Democrat.
But both are financed by big business. The Republicans are much further right, are richer, and
probably defend the war interests somewhat more strongly than the Democrats. But this is the only
fine distinction one can find.”
(From: Interview with Vidal Gore, the cousin of the former US vice-president Al Gore „Amerika
braucht Feinde” (America Needs Enemies) FAZ, Frankfurter Allgemeine Zeitung)
The Berlin Declaration, a document signed by over 50 representatives of German
churches, declared that the Pentecostal movement was from “below.” The clear warnings were
ignored, however, by the leading Pentecostals. Unfortunately, no writings can be found, among the
many works by Pentecostal and Charismatic figures against the Berlin Declaration, that take up the
statements made in the Declaration, let alone those that take a biblically grounded position. It is
also very difficult to find a print of the Berlin Declaration in Pentecostal and Charismatic
literature. We do not believe that this document has lost any of its actuality either.
(Texts enclosed in a black frame are quoted from visitors to the site or other authors.)
THE BERLIN DECLARATION
The undersigned brothers raise their voices in warning against the so-called
Pentecostal Movement.
1. After serious joint examination of the comprehensive and reliable material
before the Lord, we have come to the following conclusion:
a) The movement is inseparably connected with the movement of Los Angeles, Christiana, Hamburg,
Kassel, Grossalmerode. The attempts to deny this connection fail because of the actual facts.
b) The so-called Pentecostal movement is not from above but from below; it has many phenomena in
common with Spiritism. Demons are at work in it that, led by Satan’s cunning, mix lies and
truth in order to deceive the children of God. In many cases, those who have been said to have
“received gifts from the Spirit” later prove to have been possessed.
c) Regarding this conviction, that this movement is from below, we cannot be misled by the
personal faithfulness and devotion of individual leading brothers and sisters nor by the
healings, tongues, prophecies, etc. by which the movement is accompanied. Such signs have often
been connected with similar movements, e.g. Irvingianism, even, indeed, with Christian Science
and Spiritism.
d) The spirit in this movement produces spiritual and bodily effects of power. Nevertheless,
this is a false spirit. It has been exposed as such. The ugly phenomena like falling down,
facial twitches, trembling, crying out, revolting loud laughter, etc. also appear in meetings at
this time. We leave it open as to how much of this is demonic, how much hysterical or
psychological; such phenomena are not brought about by God.
e) The spirit of this movement introduces itself via the Word of God, but the Word is pushed
into the background by so-called “prophecies.” Cf. 2 Chronicles 18,18-22. In general, these
prophecies contain a great danger: not only do they turn out to have clear contradictions within
themselves, but they now and then bring brothers and their entire work into slavish dependence
on these “messages.” The latter resemble the messages of spiritual mediums in the way they
are sent. The senders are mostly women. At certain points of the movement this has led, contrary
to the clear prophecies of Scripture, to women, even young girls, being at the center in
leadership positions.
2. It is impossible for us to acknowledge such a movement as sent by God. It
is, of course, not excluded that the proclamation of the Word of God in the meetings will
produce fruit by the same internal power. Inexperienced brothers and sisters let themselves be
deceived by such blessings of the Word of God. But this does not change at all the fact that
this movement as a whole has the character of a lie. Cf. 2 Cor. 11,3.4.14.
3. The church of God in Germany has reason to reflect deeply on the fact that
this movement could start. We are all guilty because of our lacks and omissions, particularly
with respect to intercession. The lack of biblical knowledge and grounding, of holy seriousness
and vigilance, a superficial view of sin and grace, of conversion and rebirth, an arbitrary
exegesis of the Bible, the desire for new, exciting phenomena, the inclination to exaggerate,
but above all also arrogance - all this paved the way for this movement.
4. But in particular, the non-biblical teaching of so-called “pure heart”
has become disastrous for many circles and beneficial for the so-called Pentecostal movement.
This concerns the fallacy that “internal sin” is eradicated in a pardoned and sanctified
Christian. We hold to the truth that the Lord can and will preserve his own from all stumbling
and falling (1 Thess 5,23; Jude 24,25; Hebr 13,21) and that they have power to reign over sin
through the Holy Spirit. But no one receives, while yet on earth, a pure heart - with all
God-given and lasting preservation - that goes beyond Paul’s humble confession: “I am
conscious of nothing against myself, yet I am not by this acquitted.” Even the most advanced
Christian has to bow before God who alone judges the true state of the heart, cf. 1 Cor. 4:4.
“If we say that we have no sin, we are deceiving ourselves and the truth is not in us” (1 Jn
1:8).
The believer in Christ does receive a spotless, purified heart, it is true, but the fallacy that
the heart can reach a state of sinlessness has already brought many children of God under the
curse of insincerity with respect to sin, has deceived them about sins that are still present in
their thoughts, in their omissions or in their falling short of the high commandments of God in
their lives. One cannot be admonished enough to keep an eye open for those sins, an eye that is
not blinded by a humanly produced sanctification or by an imagined teaching that the sinful
nature is removed.
Inadequate attention to one’s own sin bars the way to new blessings and brings one under the
influence of the devil. Unhappy experiences at present show that where one claims to have
reached a state of sinlessness, the believer can come to such a point that he is no longer
capable of admitting an error, let alone confessing it. A further unhappy consequence of a false
doctrine of sanctification is its associated disparagement of the biblical divinely ordained
married life, by presenting marital intercourse between man and woman as incompatible with true
sanctification. Cf. Gen. 1,28 and Eph. 5,31.
5. P. Paul appears in public as the leader in the so-called “Pentecostal
Movement.” At the same time he is the chief representative of the unbiblical teachings
rejected above. We love him as a brother and wish to serve him and the flock of his followers in
truth. It pains us to have to take a position against him. There has been no lack of discussions
with him and admonitions in narrower and wider brotherly circles. Since everything was in vain,
we must now for his sake and for that of God’s affairs state herewith: We, the undersigned
brothers, can no longer recognize him as a leader and teacher in the church of Jesus. We command
him in love, faith and hope to the grace of the Lord that restores all things.
6. We believe that there was only one Pentecost, Acts 2. We believe in the
Holy Spirit, who will remain in the church of Jesus Christ for eternity; cf. Jn 14:16. We are
aware that the church of God has always received and needed renewed visitations of grace by the
Holy Spirit. The admonition of the apostle applies to everyone: “Be filled with the Spirit”
(Eph 5:18). The way to that is and remains complete fellowship with the crucified, resurrected
and exalted Lord. In him the fullness of the Spirit dwells in person, from whom we take grace
upon grace. We do not expect a new Pentecost; we wait for the Lord’s return.
Hereby we request all our brothers and sisters, for the sake of the Lord and his affairs, which
Satan wants to ruin: Keep away from this movement! But whoever among you is caught by the power
of this spirit, he should renounce it and ask God for forgiveness and liberation. Do not despair
in the battles through which many, perhaps, will go. Satan will not surrender his dominion
easily. But be assured: The Lord will support us throughout! He has freed many and wants to give
them the true equipment of the Spirit.
Our sure confidence in this difficult time is this: God’s people will emerge blessed from
these battles! You too may say that to yourselves, beloved brothers and sisters, who stand
shaken by the facts before which our words place you. The Lord will give light to the simple and
the humble and strengthen and preserve them.
We entrust ourselves to Jesus, the Chief Shepherd. If everyone makes room for the Lord and his
Word, as is due to him, then he will carry out the work of his Spirit that he began so
graciously in Germany, to his glorious, divinely ordained end. We entrust ourselves to him who
said: “Ask Me about the things to come concerning My sons,
And you shall commit to Me the work of My hands" Isa 45:11
Berlin, September 15, 1909
The signees are: Bähren, Hannover; Bartsch, Charlottenburg; Blecher,
Friedrichshagen; Broda, Gelsenkirchen; A. Dallmeyer, Leipzig; Dolmann, Wandsbek; Engel, Neurode;
Evers, Rixdorf; Frank, Hamburg; Grote, Oberfischbach; Hermann, Berlin; Heydorn, Frankfurt a. Oder;
Huhn, Freienwalde a. Oder; Ihloff, Neumünster; Jörn, Berlin; Kmitta, Preuss.-Bahnau; Knippel,
Duisburg; Köhler, Berlin; Graf Korff, Hannover; Kühn, Gr. Lichterfelde; Lammert, Berlin; Lohe,
Breslau; K. Mascher, Steglitz; Fr. Mascher, Lehe i. Hannover; Meister, Waldenburg i. Schlesien;
Merten, Elberfeld; Michaelis, Bielefeld; Freiherr v. Patow, Zinnitz; Rohrbach, Charlottenburg; von
Rot(h)kirch, Berlin; Rudersdorf, Düsseldorf; Ruprecht, Herischdorf; Sartorius, Sterbfritz;
Scharwächter, Leipzig; Schiefer, Neukirchen; Schopf,Witten a. d. Ruhr; Schrenk, Barmen; Schütz,
Berlin; Schütz, Rawitsch; Seitz, Teichwolframsdorf; Simoleit, Berlin; Stockmayer, Hauptweil;
Freiherr von Thiele-Winckler, Rothenmoor; Thiemann, Marklissa; von Tres(c)kow, Camenz i. Schlesien;
Freiherr von Thümmler, Selka; M. Urban, Kattowitz; Urbschat, Hela; Vasel, Königsberg; von Viebahn,
Stettin; Wächter, Frankfurt a. Main; Wallraff, Berlin; Warns, Berlin; Wittekindt, Wernigerode a.
Harz; Wüsten, Görlitz; von Zastrow, Gr. Breesen; Agreements were asked from Wittekindt in
Wernigerode.
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